▲ 3657 ▼ Winning is relative (sh.itjust.works) submitted 3 years ago by bpeu@sh.itjust.works to c/memes@lemmy.ml 305 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 3 years ago (2 children) Or the paper works outside of the labs. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] Colour_me_triggered@lemm.ee 18 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] Redredme@lemmy.world 8 points 3 years ago (3 children) Dutchie here, we do the same. Everybody speaks (some form of) English, almost everything is also available in English. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Jazard23@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) This is true but also keep in mind that Dutch is still leading in most cases. E.g. if you have a contract that's both in English and Dutch, if issues arise the Dutch translation will usually be the one that is followed permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 years ago Dutch is still leading in most cases. Sint Maarten should check-in and tell us about the English-Dutch separation and the class system it all but foments. It's 90% fascinating if 10% disappointing. permalink fedilink source parent [–] baropithecus@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago The Dutch speak better English than some parts of England. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Kaped@lemmy.ml -1 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 years ago My experience is purely based on Germany and I hate it even as a native. Plus having ADHD and paper being a chore doesnt help at all... Also most folks (in my experience of south west Germany) of age >40-50 have little experience with English and can't converse beyond the most basics. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ezures@lemmy.wtf 5 points 3 years ago (1 child) For some reason France really doesn't like giving english (or any other than french) options on their gov sites. Every other country in the eu are fine. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 years ago* In France, I feel French is heavily a part of their identity; and contrary to Americans fairweather-jeering their best revolutionary ally, the French do not surrender lightly. It feels like that's the one thing even the poorest French person has, and taking away one iota of that will be met with a resistance we've learned to respect. permalink fedilink source parent [–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child) but in Norway [:] English. Everyone speaks it Scandinavia is absolutely killing it for bilingualism, among so many other ways they're killin' it -- no, really, other countries should just study them for clues in general. My experiences (just Sweden, Denmark and bonus Iceland, so far) is that they say Hej and listen for your "hello", flipping over into beautiful and perfect English without hesitation. Their language programmes are just fucking astounding, really. Spain's fine in the touristy spots, but Spanish itself is VERY accessible as a language, so it's kinda moot like France. In Germany I will have to rely heavily on the kindness of strangers as I will never grok the language. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Colour_me_triggered@lemm.ee 3 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] IuseArchbtw@feddit.de 4 points 3 years ago (2 children) I would most certainly disagree that every person speaks English. Especially older people don't, but in general many people here do not speak a good english permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] IuseArchbtw@feddit.de 3 points 3 years ago Oh, I see that I totally forgot to mention I'm from Germany permalink fedilink source parent [+] Colour_me_triggered@lemm.ee 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] sederx@programming.dev 0 points 2 years ago never needed german knowledge to do standard burocracy stuff permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Colour_me_triggered@lemm.ee 18 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] Redredme@lemmy.world 8 points 3 years ago (3 children) Dutchie here, we do the same. Everybody speaks (some form of) English, almost everything is also available in English. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Jazard23@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) This is true but also keep in mind that Dutch is still leading in most cases. E.g. if you have a contract that's both in English and Dutch, if issues arise the Dutch translation will usually be the one that is followed permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 years ago Dutch is still leading in most cases. Sint Maarten should check-in and tell us about the English-Dutch separation and the class system it all but foments. It's 90% fascinating if 10% disappointing. permalink fedilink source parent [–] baropithecus@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago The Dutch speak better English than some parts of England. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Kaped@lemmy.ml -1 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 years ago My experience is purely based on Germany and I hate it even as a native. Plus having ADHD and paper being a chore doesnt help at all... Also most folks (in my experience of south west Germany) of age >40-50 have little experience with English and can't converse beyond the most basics. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ezures@lemmy.wtf 5 points 3 years ago (1 child) For some reason France really doesn't like giving english (or any other than french) options on their gov sites. Every other country in the eu are fine. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 years ago* In France, I feel French is heavily a part of their identity; and contrary to Americans fairweather-jeering their best revolutionary ally, the French do not surrender lightly. It feels like that's the one thing even the poorest French person has, and taking away one iota of that will be met with a resistance we've learned to respect. permalink fedilink source parent [–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child) but in Norway [:] English. Everyone speaks it Scandinavia is absolutely killing it for bilingualism, among so many other ways they're killin' it -- no, really, other countries should just study them for clues in general. My experiences (just Sweden, Denmark and bonus Iceland, so far) is that they say Hej and listen for your "hello", flipping over into beautiful and perfect English without hesitation. Their language programmes are just fucking astounding, really. Spain's fine in the touristy spots, but Spanish itself is VERY accessible as a language, so it's kinda moot like France. In Germany I will have to rely heavily on the kindness of strangers as I will never grok the language. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Colour_me_triggered@lemm.ee 3 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] IuseArchbtw@feddit.de 4 points 3 years ago (2 children) I would most certainly disagree that every person speaks English. Especially older people don't, but in general many people here do not speak a good english permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] IuseArchbtw@feddit.de 3 points 3 years ago Oh, I see that I totally forgot to mention I'm from Germany permalink fedilink source parent [+] Colour_me_triggered@lemm.ee 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Redredme@lemmy.world 8 points 3 years ago (3 children) Dutchie here, we do the same. Everybody speaks (some form of) English, almost everything is also available in English. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Jazard23@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) This is true but also keep in mind that Dutch is still leading in most cases. E.g. if you have a contract that's both in English and Dutch, if issues arise the Dutch translation will usually be the one that is followed permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 years ago Dutch is still leading in most cases. Sint Maarten should check-in and tell us about the English-Dutch separation and the class system it all but foments. It's 90% fascinating if 10% disappointing. permalink fedilink source parent [–] baropithecus@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago The Dutch speak better English than some parts of England. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Kaped@lemmy.ml -1 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Jazard23@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) This is true but also keep in mind that Dutch is still leading in most cases. E.g. if you have a contract that's both in English and Dutch, if issues arise the Dutch translation will usually be the one that is followed permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 years ago Dutch is still leading in most cases. Sint Maarten should check-in and tell us about the English-Dutch separation and the class system it all but foments. It's 90% fascinating if 10% disappointing. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 years ago Dutch is still leading in most cases. Sint Maarten should check-in and tell us about the English-Dutch separation and the class system it all but foments. It's 90% fascinating if 10% disappointing. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] baropithecus@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago The Dutch speak better English than some parts of England. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Kaped@lemmy.ml -1 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 years ago My experience is purely based on Germany and I hate it even as a native. Plus having ADHD and paper being a chore doesnt help at all... Also most folks (in my experience of south west Germany) of age >40-50 have little experience with English and can't converse beyond the most basics. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ezures@lemmy.wtf 5 points 3 years ago (1 child) For some reason France really doesn't like giving english (or any other than french) options on their gov sites. Every other country in the eu are fine. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 years ago* In France, I feel French is heavily a part of their identity; and contrary to Americans fairweather-jeering their best revolutionary ally, the French do not surrender lightly. It feels like that's the one thing even the poorest French person has, and taking away one iota of that will be met with a resistance we've learned to respect. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 years ago* In France, I feel French is heavily a part of their identity; and contrary to Americans fairweather-jeering their best revolutionary ally, the French do not surrender lightly. It feels like that's the one thing even the poorest French person has, and taking away one iota of that will be met with a resistance we've learned to respect. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child) but in Norway [:] English. Everyone speaks it Scandinavia is absolutely killing it for bilingualism, among so many other ways they're killin' it -- no, really, other countries should just study them for clues in general. My experiences (just Sweden, Denmark and bonus Iceland, so far) is that they say Hej and listen for your "hello", flipping over into beautiful and perfect English without hesitation. Their language programmes are just fucking astounding, really. Spain's fine in the touristy spots, but Spanish itself is VERY accessible as a language, so it's kinda moot like France. In Germany I will have to rely heavily on the kindness of strangers as I will never grok the language. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Colour_me_triggered@lemm.ee 3 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Colour_me_triggered@lemm.ee 3 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] IuseArchbtw@feddit.de 4 points 3 years ago (2 children) I would most certainly disagree that every person speaks English. Especially older people don't, but in general many people here do not speak a good english permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] IuseArchbtw@feddit.de 3 points 3 years ago Oh, I see that I totally forgot to mention I'm from Germany permalink fedilink source parent [+] Colour_me_triggered@lemm.ee 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] IuseArchbtw@feddit.de 3 points 3 years ago Oh, I see that I totally forgot to mention I'm from Germany permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Colour_me_triggered@lemm.ee 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sederx@programming.dev 0 points 2 years ago never needed german knowledge to do standard burocracy stuff permalink fedilink source parent