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Winning is relative (sh.itjust.works)
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[–] 39 points 3 years ago (3 children)

Work in IT.
Start at 9:00
Lunch 13:00-14:00
Go home at 18:00
Commute (if construction does not tear up the main crossing) is around 30min 1-way with bus or a 15-20min bicycle ride.

Experience: About 5 years without college/uni.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    I think IT might not be as easy as you think. Academia is a bit more open.

    IT isn't quite high skilled enough to get in. They'd almost certainly need an employer to say they couldn't find a European to do the job, which is exceedingly unlikely.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    I don't know if I quite get what you are saying...
    You mean it from the perspective of a US based company?

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  • [–] 6 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    I think he's saying it's harder to get a work visa taking a job in IT, as the EU company would have to first prove that they couldn't find a European citizen to take the job before they can start hiring foreigners.

    It hasn't been my experience though, we hire lots of foreigners on work visas. Many from India and former Soviet countries especially.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago

    Yeah, that's what I was saying.

    In Spain we do have non-EU people, but oftentimes they come here, live in Spain "irregularly" at some point, and then manage to get residency through means other than an employer sponsoring them. That might not be the case everywhere though.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child)

    I'm not in a big corp so I can just assume:
    Do some countries require to proof local citizens are not worthy enough so you need to import work force from abroad?

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago (1 child)

    Yeah, many countries do this. It's common in Europe but the US does it also.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago (1 child)

    Kinda surprised because you read so much stories about outsourcing workforce to "3rd world" countries in Asia and Africa/S.America.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago

    Outsourcing generally means that you hire a (often foreign) consulting company to do your work for you, instead of having your own employees do it. That's much different from getting an immigrant a work visa and having them work for you.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Work in IT. Start at 9:00 Lunch 13:00-14:00 Go home at 18:00

    IT Job I left:

    • start at 8
    • coffee 10-1030-ish (sometimes like 11)
    • lunch at 12-13
    • second coffee 15-1530
    • leave at 1647, home by 1720 by train -- tools down, muthafuckas
    • voluntary standby for 1/4 time and immediate double-time for callouts, sanctity of personal time otherwise.
    • union, 9x9 work term, no abrupt firings.
    • EXACTLY on the median base salary for my job+region, which includes dot-coms.
    • in north america, no less.

    Experience: About 5 years without college/uni.

    Experience: my soul.

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  • [–] -1 points 3 years ago*

    Both of y'all are melting American brains trying to do the math on figuring out what times you're talking about.

    Most Americans have no clue that 13:00 is 1:00pm because 12+1 is too difficult, and God help you if you say 22:00, because 22-12 might as well be euclidean geometry.

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