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[–] 76 points 4 months ago* (2 children)

The limit of space is widely defined as 100 km, which no commercial plane even nearly crosses.

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  • [–] 12 points 4 months ago (5 children)

    Yeah that's called Kármán line, but it's just arbitrary line. ISS is still orbiting within Earth's thermosphere

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  • [–] 51 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Yes, definitions are arbitrary but that is the definition of space.

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  • [–] 0 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    One can be simultaneously on earth, and in space. In fact we all are

    But I'm just arguing that while orbiting earth and being within the Earth's atmosphere, it's pretty much still on Earth. Just like you're still at home even if you're at the on the yard or even just outside the gate picking up mail from the mailbox. Looking at it from distance, it really doesn't make difference

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  • [–] 19 points 4 months ago (5 children)

    I'm also orbiting the sun, ergo, I am a planet

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  • [–] 13 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    It's not like citizenship you don't get to be a planet just because your mom is.

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  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    But you are also spinning around (with) the earth, so wouldn't that make you a moon?

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  • [–] 11 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    What does "ISS" stand for again? I forgot.

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  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago

    The Karman Line's lowest theoretical point is still substantially higher up than commercial airplanes and its highest is substantially lower than the ISS. Most nations agree on it as the boundary for the purposes of law and regulation. Commercial airplanes fly about half as high as the line, while spacecraft orbit at four times its altitude or more.

    It may be scientifically arbitrary, but it's got a lot going for it as a rough approximation.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    My favorite fact is that earth's atmosphere extends 95,000 miles / 150,000 km beyond the moon.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

    I couldn't find any source for that, but exosphere is considered to extend to 10,000km or 190,000km, from which the latter is about halfway to the moon.

    Anyways those numbers are pretty damn tiny even on a small solar system scale

    Anyways, even if you look from very close, from our own moon to the earth, anything on the low earth orbit is so extremely close to the planet. Just look at some of the famous earthrise photos, and think of something orbiting ~8% of the radius distance

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    But a plane is not "on earth"?

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  • [–] 16 points 4 months ago* (2 children)

    Extremely pedantically, sure. But under that level of pedantry, the whole metric falls apart anyway because there's surely never or rarely been a point in recorded human history where someone hasn't jumped/fallen/not been physically touching the ground themselves (let alone this having been measurable). What about "touching"; your feet are just repelling the ground via electromagnetism.

    It's really obvious what the metric is, and trying to pedant-proof it isn't worth bloating it into a mouthful. We can just recognize what it obviously means, say "oh, neat", and move on with our day.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago

    The last time everybody was touching a solid object connected to the Earth by touching other solid objects is probably around 15,000 years ago, when humans crossed over into the Americas. Before then, it would probably occur regularly that nearly all humans are asleep and the handful that are awake happen to all be touching the ground.

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