▲ 64 ▼ Canadians are drinking less, driving the biggest drop in alcohol sales in 20 years: StatsCan (www.cbc.ca) submitted 5 months ago* by NomNom@feddit.uk to c/canada@lemmy.ca 18 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] maplesaga@lemmy.world -3 points 5 months ago (1 child) https://globalnews.ca/news/9576344/canada-alcohol-tax-increase-explainer/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] foggenbooty@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago (1 child) Charlebois predicts the tax will increase the price of a single beer by one cent, while the finance ministry told Global News in a statement that the amount would be three-quarters of a cent. Oh no? Even in the worst case the taxes are clearly not the issue. Beer Canada said since the tax is a production tax imposed on the brewer at the point and time of production, “it is then magnified by other fees and taxes imposed by distributors, retailers, and provinces, including sales taxes,” making the impact on a 12-pack likely closer to 20 cents. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] maplesaga@lemmy.world -4 points 5 months ago* (1 child) Well sure, at some point it breaks the camels back, where the poor are unable to drink; and like all taxes that arent means tested the rich are largely unaffected. The total tax obviously depends on province, but I think these numbers are correct, at an average tax of 47%. https://cansumer.ca/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/Canadian-Beer-Tax-Components-as-Percentage-of-Retail-Price-1024x474.png https://cansumer.ca/alcohol-prices-canada/ This is obviously exacerbated to by the recent mass immigration of low skilled workers who compete with the youth, which has lead to lower wages and more unaffordable housing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] foggenbooty@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago (1 child) It was disingenuous to infer that the minor tax increase you linked to above had any meaningful impact on affordability. If your second link is accurate then your bigger beef is with the provincial liquor boards as they are levying a tax that is certainly notable. And then to blame immigrants for unaffordability with the old debunked "taking our jobs" argument is just sad. I hope you eventually step out of your conservative bubble and see that it's capitalism and class inequality that are the problem, not government and your fellow man. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] maplesaga@lemmy.world -3 points 5 months ago* (1 child) Its the taxes they keep adding, that was just the most recent. Clearly when every level of government is dipping their hands in for more then the poor won't be able to afford it. The rich will keep the industry alive though, a real progressive society which puts the privilege of a commonly used natural substance behind a paywall. I blame immigrants because they were brought in to deal with the labor shortage, when everyone was getting large raises. I have a brain, I can see it debased salaries, and corporations were begging for it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] foggenbooty@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (1 child) You're so close. It's like you read 1/2 of the detective novel, thought you knew who did it, then got bored and closed it without finding out you were wrong. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] maplesaga@lemmy.world -2 points 5 months ago What aspect? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] foggenbooty@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago (1 child) Charlebois predicts the tax will increase the price of a single beer by one cent, while the finance ministry told Global News in a statement that the amount would be three-quarters of a cent. Oh no? Even in the worst case the taxes are clearly not the issue. Beer Canada said since the tax is a production tax imposed on the brewer at the point and time of production, “it is then magnified by other fees and taxes imposed by distributors, retailers, and provinces, including sales taxes,” making the impact on a 12-pack likely closer to 20 cents. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] maplesaga@lemmy.world -4 points 5 months ago* (1 child) Well sure, at some point it breaks the camels back, where the poor are unable to drink; and like all taxes that arent means tested the rich are largely unaffected. The total tax obviously depends on province, but I think these numbers are correct, at an average tax of 47%. https://cansumer.ca/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/Canadian-Beer-Tax-Components-as-Percentage-of-Retail-Price-1024x474.png https://cansumer.ca/alcohol-prices-canada/ This is obviously exacerbated to by the recent mass immigration of low skilled workers who compete with the youth, which has lead to lower wages and more unaffordable housing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] foggenbooty@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago (1 child) It was disingenuous to infer that the minor tax increase you linked to above had any meaningful impact on affordability. If your second link is accurate then your bigger beef is with the provincial liquor boards as they are levying a tax that is certainly notable. And then to blame immigrants for unaffordability with the old debunked "taking our jobs" argument is just sad. I hope you eventually step out of your conservative bubble and see that it's capitalism and class inequality that are the problem, not government and your fellow man. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] maplesaga@lemmy.world -3 points 5 months ago* (1 child) Its the taxes they keep adding, that was just the most recent. Clearly when every level of government is dipping their hands in for more then the poor won't be able to afford it. The rich will keep the industry alive though, a real progressive society which puts the privilege of a commonly used natural substance behind a paywall. I blame immigrants because they were brought in to deal with the labor shortage, when everyone was getting large raises. I have a brain, I can see it debased salaries, and corporations were begging for it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] foggenbooty@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (1 child) You're so close. It's like you read 1/2 of the detective novel, thought you knew who did it, then got bored and closed it without finding out you were wrong. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] maplesaga@lemmy.world -2 points 5 months ago What aspect? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] maplesaga@lemmy.world -4 points 5 months ago* (1 child) Well sure, at some point it breaks the camels back, where the poor are unable to drink; and like all taxes that arent means tested the rich are largely unaffected. The total tax obviously depends on province, but I think these numbers are correct, at an average tax of 47%. https://cansumer.ca/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/Canadian-Beer-Tax-Components-as-Percentage-of-Retail-Price-1024x474.png https://cansumer.ca/alcohol-prices-canada/ This is obviously exacerbated to by the recent mass immigration of low skilled workers who compete with the youth, which has lead to lower wages and more unaffordable housing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] foggenbooty@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago (1 child) It was disingenuous to infer that the minor tax increase you linked to above had any meaningful impact on affordability. If your second link is accurate then your bigger beef is with the provincial liquor boards as they are levying a tax that is certainly notable. And then to blame immigrants for unaffordability with the old debunked "taking our jobs" argument is just sad. I hope you eventually step out of your conservative bubble and see that it's capitalism and class inequality that are the problem, not government and your fellow man. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] maplesaga@lemmy.world -3 points 5 months ago* (1 child) Its the taxes they keep adding, that was just the most recent. Clearly when every level of government is dipping their hands in for more then the poor won't be able to afford it. The rich will keep the industry alive though, a real progressive society which puts the privilege of a commonly used natural substance behind a paywall. I blame immigrants because they were brought in to deal with the labor shortage, when everyone was getting large raises. I have a brain, I can see it debased salaries, and corporations were begging for it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] foggenbooty@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (1 child) You're so close. It's like you read 1/2 of the detective novel, thought you knew who did it, then got bored and closed it without finding out you were wrong. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] maplesaga@lemmy.world -2 points 5 months ago What aspect? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] foggenbooty@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago (1 child) It was disingenuous to infer that the minor tax increase you linked to above had any meaningful impact on affordability. If your second link is accurate then your bigger beef is with the provincial liquor boards as they are levying a tax that is certainly notable. And then to blame immigrants for unaffordability with the old debunked "taking our jobs" argument is just sad. I hope you eventually step out of your conservative bubble and see that it's capitalism and class inequality that are the problem, not government and your fellow man. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] maplesaga@lemmy.world -3 points 5 months ago* (1 child) Its the taxes they keep adding, that was just the most recent. Clearly when every level of government is dipping their hands in for more then the poor won't be able to afford it. The rich will keep the industry alive though, a real progressive society which puts the privilege of a commonly used natural substance behind a paywall. I blame immigrants because they were brought in to deal with the labor shortage, when everyone was getting large raises. I have a brain, I can see it debased salaries, and corporations were begging for it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] foggenbooty@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (1 child) You're so close. It's like you read 1/2 of the detective novel, thought you knew who did it, then got bored and closed it without finding out you were wrong. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] maplesaga@lemmy.world -2 points 5 months ago What aspect? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] maplesaga@lemmy.world -3 points 5 months ago* (1 child) Its the taxes they keep adding, that was just the most recent. Clearly when every level of government is dipping their hands in for more then the poor won't be able to afford it. The rich will keep the industry alive though, a real progressive society which puts the privilege of a commonly used natural substance behind a paywall. I blame immigrants because they were brought in to deal with the labor shortage, when everyone was getting large raises. I have a brain, I can see it debased salaries, and corporations were begging for it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] foggenbooty@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (1 child) You're so close. It's like you read 1/2 of the detective novel, thought you knew who did it, then got bored and closed it without finding out you were wrong. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] maplesaga@lemmy.world -2 points 5 months ago What aspect? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] foggenbooty@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (1 child) You're so close. It's like you read 1/2 of the detective novel, thought you knew who did it, then got bored and closed it without finding out you were wrong. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] maplesaga@lemmy.world -2 points 5 months ago What aspect? permalink fedilink source parent