▲ 313 ▼ Shots fired...good thing Storm Troppers can't hit anything (i.imgflip.com) submitted 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) by negativenull@piefed.world [M] to c/tenforward@lemmy.world 136 comments fedilink hide all child comments Edit: this is meant to be a shitpost. I don't care about your favorite series/universe. You do you.
[–] SippyCup@lemmy.ml 1 point 7 months ago (1 child) You'd enjoy the opening to Starship Troopers. The rest of the book is neonationalist garbage but the openinging sequence is good. And the likely inspiration for the drop you described. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] macmacfire@lemmy.ml 3 points 7 months ago (2 children) The rest of the book is neonationalist garbage Just have to ask...you do realize it's satire, right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SippyCup@lemmy.ml 5 points 7 months ago (1 child) The book? Or the movie? The book is 100% serious. It's fucking ridiculous. But Heinlein is pretty sincere and uses it as his philosophical treatise. There's more than one section where he sits everyone down in a classroom for a lecture. The movie is satire. It takes the themes presented and makes sure that everyone who espouses the virtues of the militant fascist state is horribly disfigured. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Postmortal_Pop@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 child) I have a hard time getting a read on Heinlein because he also wrote Stranger in a Strange Land which is as left as Starship Troopers is right. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SippyCup@lemmy.ml 2 points 7 months ago (1 child) As I understand he wrote SiaSL to be deliberately provocative. It read to me as if he was just dreaming up the most bizarrely counter culture things he could think of and mushing them together. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 months ago* Stranger was considerably more thoughtful and deliberate than you've described, but even still how is that different than Starship Troopers? Heinlein used his novels to explore worldviews, not really to endorse them. If you start trying to pin down his sincere beliefs with any one book, you're pretty quickly going to run into inconsistencies with the others. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SatyrSack@quokk.au 3 points 7 months ago (1 child) The film adaptation was satirical, but the novel that it was based on was not. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starship_Troopers https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starship_Troopers_(film) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] elephantium@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago The exact words of the text permalink fedilink source parent
[–] macmacfire@lemmy.ml 3 points 7 months ago (2 children) The rest of the book is neonationalist garbage Just have to ask...you do realize it's satire, right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SippyCup@lemmy.ml 5 points 7 months ago (1 child) The book? Or the movie? The book is 100% serious. It's fucking ridiculous. But Heinlein is pretty sincere and uses it as his philosophical treatise. There's more than one section where he sits everyone down in a classroom for a lecture. The movie is satire. It takes the themes presented and makes sure that everyone who espouses the virtues of the militant fascist state is horribly disfigured. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Postmortal_Pop@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 child) I have a hard time getting a read on Heinlein because he also wrote Stranger in a Strange Land which is as left as Starship Troopers is right. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SippyCup@lemmy.ml 2 points 7 months ago (1 child) As I understand he wrote SiaSL to be deliberately provocative. It read to me as if he was just dreaming up the most bizarrely counter culture things he could think of and mushing them together. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 months ago* Stranger was considerably more thoughtful and deliberate than you've described, but even still how is that different than Starship Troopers? Heinlein used his novels to explore worldviews, not really to endorse them. If you start trying to pin down his sincere beliefs with any one book, you're pretty quickly going to run into inconsistencies with the others. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SatyrSack@quokk.au 3 points 7 months ago (1 child) The film adaptation was satirical, but the novel that it was based on was not. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starship_Troopers https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starship_Troopers_(film) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] elephantium@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago The exact words of the text permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SippyCup@lemmy.ml 5 points 7 months ago (1 child) The book? Or the movie? The book is 100% serious. It's fucking ridiculous. But Heinlein is pretty sincere and uses it as his philosophical treatise. There's more than one section where he sits everyone down in a classroom for a lecture. The movie is satire. It takes the themes presented and makes sure that everyone who espouses the virtues of the militant fascist state is horribly disfigured. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Postmortal_Pop@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 child) I have a hard time getting a read on Heinlein because he also wrote Stranger in a Strange Land which is as left as Starship Troopers is right. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SippyCup@lemmy.ml 2 points 7 months ago (1 child) As I understand he wrote SiaSL to be deliberately provocative. It read to me as if he was just dreaming up the most bizarrely counter culture things he could think of and mushing them together. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 months ago* Stranger was considerably more thoughtful and deliberate than you've described, but even still how is that different than Starship Troopers? Heinlein used his novels to explore worldviews, not really to endorse them. If you start trying to pin down his sincere beliefs with any one book, you're pretty quickly going to run into inconsistencies with the others. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Postmortal_Pop@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 child) I have a hard time getting a read on Heinlein because he also wrote Stranger in a Strange Land which is as left as Starship Troopers is right. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SippyCup@lemmy.ml 2 points 7 months ago (1 child) As I understand he wrote SiaSL to be deliberately provocative. It read to me as if he was just dreaming up the most bizarrely counter culture things he could think of and mushing them together. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 months ago* Stranger was considerably more thoughtful and deliberate than you've described, but even still how is that different than Starship Troopers? Heinlein used his novels to explore worldviews, not really to endorse them. If you start trying to pin down his sincere beliefs with any one book, you're pretty quickly going to run into inconsistencies with the others. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SippyCup@lemmy.ml 2 points 7 months ago (1 child) As I understand he wrote SiaSL to be deliberately provocative. It read to me as if he was just dreaming up the most bizarrely counter culture things he could think of and mushing them together. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 months ago* Stranger was considerably more thoughtful and deliberate than you've described, but even still how is that different than Starship Troopers? Heinlein used his novels to explore worldviews, not really to endorse them. If you start trying to pin down his sincere beliefs with any one book, you're pretty quickly going to run into inconsistencies with the others. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 months ago* Stranger was considerably more thoughtful and deliberate than you've described, but even still how is that different than Starship Troopers? Heinlein used his novels to explore worldviews, not really to endorse them. If you start trying to pin down his sincere beliefs with any one book, you're pretty quickly going to run into inconsistencies with the others. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SatyrSack@quokk.au 3 points 7 months ago (1 child) The film adaptation was satirical, but the novel that it was based on was not. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starship_Troopers https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starship_Troopers_(film) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] elephantium@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago The exact words of the text permalink fedilink source parent
[–] elephantium@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago The exact words of the text permalink fedilink source parent
