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[–] 97 points 7 months ago* (3 children)

anybody who chooses Bear is CHOOSING THE BEAR

But she's getting both. Big brown bear and insufferably smug, demonstrably useless, petty and vindictive man.

Bears are not kind to humans in their territory

Bears generally leave you alone unless you've got food and they're hungry... at which point, just give them your food and you'll be fine. Despite millions of humans living in historical bear territory, you get only 2-5 actual attacks reported per year.

Men can't make this claim.

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  • [–] 19 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (7 children)

    There have been 3 black bear attacks in the USA this year, all three fatal, and one brown bear attack, also fatal. I might also be missing some nonfatal attacks since theres not a well maintained list for those. Humans also generally leave you alone if you're not in their immediate vicinity, I think it warrants assuming you're not just on the same mountain as the bear.

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  • [–] 60 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    There have been 3 bear attacks in the USA this year, all three fatal.

    Now do men.

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  • [–] 45 points 7 months ago (6 children)

    There were 3,849 women murdered in the US in 2023. But it does not list who killed them.

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/1388777/murder-victims-in-the-us-by-gender/

    in 2021, 147 women were killed by 144 men.

    https://www.tortoisemedia.com/2024/07/04/census-details-how-often-men-kill-women

    using the lower number from 2021, and the bear fatalities from the same year (6 total, only 4 were women), women are 36.5 times more likely to be killed by a man than a bear... and this is not counting rape.

    Bear attacks: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fatal_bear_attacks_in_North_America

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  • [–] 19 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    You didn't figure in factors like number of men total or number of bears total, and the amount of exposure to either.

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  • [–] 8 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    You are such an asshole.

    I'm not the first to say that, not the last, but you need to be reminded of that constantly.

    Fuck you, fuck your bad faith arguments, and go away.

    You are also the reason why people choose bears.

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago* (1 child)

    There were 3,849 women murdered in the US in 2023

    Murder isn't the only way to be killed. Case in point, 2,958 women's deaths are classified as "passenger vehicle accidents", plus another 2,126 pedestrian deaths.

    By gender, the overwhelming majority of accident drivers are men (13,085 : 5,212). So if you're worried specifically about dying and you exclude all murderers, just getting in a car makes other male drivers vastly more dangerous than bears.

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  • [–] 33 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Your mind is going to be blown when you find out about the number of man attacks this year.

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Better yet, what about Mosquitos?

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  • [–] 12 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Probably a bad example for your case of being an obtuse asshole almost every time any subject comes up (we recognize our own.)

    Mosquitos are incredibly deadly to humans but they're also like hundreds of trillions of them at any given time, so an average mosquito is still significantly less dangerous to a woman than an average man.

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago* (2 children)
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  • [–] 20 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    I bet even male toddlers killed more people in the us

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  • [–] 11 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    you get only 2-5 *actual attacks* reported per year.

    There have been 3 black bear attacks in the USA this year, all three fatal, and one brown bear attack, also fatal.

    And is 3 + 1 within the range [2, 5]? I know it's a tough question, but I have faith you can manage to figure it out!

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago*

    I can't tell if this a serious comment. There were only three in the entire United States? God damn dude, maybe I'll take the bear as well... And I'm a guy.

    I guess you've sold us all on how much better the bear is. For the record, I encountered a bear earlier this year and yelled at it. It walked away.

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  • [–] 18 points 7 months ago (5 children)

    How many thousands of men have you interacted with and yet are still alive? Are you seriously suggesting you could interact with thousands of bears and have the same success rate? You're manipulating the numbers in a very dishonest way.

    Nobody is scared of vending machines even though they kill more people than sharks, not because sharks are safer, but because almost nobody interacts with a shark but almost everyone has many safe interactions with a vending machine.

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago

    How many thousands of men have you interacted with and yet are still alive?

    "I've never been in a conversation with someone who wasn't alive, therefore death isn't real."

    Fucking baby-brain shit. Have you even developed object permanence yet?

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago

    Lol, are you literally thinking the hypothetical includes all men? They aren't going to run away from their father, brother, cousin, or the nice old man who runs the laundremat.

    It's about predatory men. Men that want something from them - sex, a relationship, companionship. The way mamy men pursue this is often very sketchy and/or dangerous. Domestic violence against woman is extremely common.

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