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Cause and Effect (lemmy.dbzer0.com)
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[–] 56 points 10 months ago (7 children)

I have no scientific education. I am still not retarded enough to believe any of the nonsensical conspiracies found online.

Could it be that the key here is media competence and not a doctors degree?

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  • [–] 39 points 10 months ago* (1 child)

    I've worked with doctors who believe this shit. When this all kicked off, they immediately discarded their education to embrace the Fox dogma.

    Area of study is definitely not the issue.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago

    I've worked IT in healthcare and let me tell you, I've met some incredibly stupid doctors and learned just cause you're a doctor doesn't make you smart. And then I realized, there is someone at the bottom of every graduating class out there.

    What do you call someone who almost failed out of medical school? Doctor.

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  • [–] 27 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    The key is, that for a lot of people reasoning and thinking is a hard work, because never learned it. I remember an interview with a MAGA voter about climate change and his response: "It's a big lie, human beings can't be the cause, because they are not capable of changing God's creation".

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  • [–] 9 points 10 months ago

    Tbh, reasoning and thinking is hard work, even if you learned how to.

    And it's getting increasingly harder to find reliable information, so you have to check the sources of your sources. And at some point down the rabbit hole stuff gets real complex, and maybe, you still haven't figured out what's true...

    So the layman has to trust someone, and in our age of disinformation, someone isn't necessarily trustworthy. So between the day to day struggles and constant indoctrination, I get why people just hear what they want to hear. Still doesn't excuse it though.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (1 child)

    Zoiks! 😵‍💫 I know people keep saying "we're cooked" but I think I'm actually starting to feel the heat lately

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago*

    You can't reasoning with people like these, even if they understand that the clima is changing, they say, it is Gods Will and we can do bothing to stop it. Business as usual, period. Yes, we are cooked because of these Australopithecus, irrelevant what say scientists and even with Nobel price, important what say the influencer in TikTok and YT.

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  • [–] 18 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

    I think it's more about keeping yourself curious and reading stuff form reliable sources than actually getting a degree, which makes little sense. (I'm a physicist, and I'm totally ignorant about physiology, for instance, so I have to trust "people who know", and these aren't usually found on crappy YT or TikTok videos).

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  • [–] 10 points 10 months ago

    It's not talking about a doctorate, it's talking about actually taking education (of all levels) seriously because education is the primary means by which a populace becomes in innoculated against mis/disinformation.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago

    How do you determine they are "nonsensical conspiracies"?

    Could it be media induces in us a belief that we think ourselves "media competent", such that we begin to presume to know, without scrutiny?

    ... Certainly used to be my job, when I worked in advertising. Easier to induce in people, than to undo.

    Few seem of a Socratic bent, such as "All I know is I know nothing. And sometimes I forget even that much.", preferring instead the feels of believing themselves smart and wise, not confronting the horror of how readily manipulated they are. ... Sorry for my part, doing that to everybody who saw the adverts and corporate branding I made when I was "just doing my job". Had I stayed in the industry, I dread to think what I'd be doing now with the power at the advertiser's/marketer's/propagandist's disposal, able to cold read smart phone users, 24/7.

    I used to do it. And I'm not self deluded enough to think even my level of media awareness is in any way adequate a protection against it.

    But having said that... Yes, better media awareness(/"competence"), than "a doctors degree". Having a doctorate makes sure you were obedient enough to get through the system, and makes you a special influencer target for such manipulations. Always seek another "2nd opinion".

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