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A Toronto landlord is banning electric vehicles on its property. Tenants' advocates say that's 'unreasonable' (www.cbc.ca)
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[–] 11 points 2 years ago (1 child)

Moot point, nowhere will suddenly switch to electric vehicles overnight.

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  • [–] -4 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    Multi family complexes do all the time, richer neighborhoods typically adopt EVs faster. Some municipalities are passing legislation mandating their use. Just because you can’t see it being an issue doesn’t make it moot.

    It’s happened before, which is why it’s a known issue, so it’s far from moot if it’s happened before, no?

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Point out one example of an entire block switching to electric vehicles overnight then.

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  • [–] -4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    https://www.victoria.ca/EN/main/residents/planning-development/development-services/electric-vehicle-readiness-in-new-construction.html

    Municipality requires new buildings to be EV ready, ANY infill neighborhood would fit the requirements for your example. That’s just one city, happening all over the world.

    But hey, continue with your head in the sand.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Requiring new building to be electric vehicle ready seems to be a no brainer, but that’s not what we’re talking about.

    I’m asking you to provide some proof to your claims that whole blocks are going to switch to electric vehicles overnight.

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  • [–] -3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Infills are where you rip buildings down and replace them with new ones, this triggers code changes. So any place with these mandates and allow infills can have this happening.

    If your focusing on just the literal definition of “overnight… we’ll I can’t help there, but infills fit the requirements of your required “proof”.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    No it doesn't. They asked for proof of a place that it has happened, you've provided proof of places where it could happen. That still doesn't change that it's incredibly unlikely for an entire neighbourhood to replace all their vehicles in a short period of time and even more unlikely that they would all be EVs.

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  • [–] -3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    We’ve had customers be “refused” to be able to get their transformer upgraded. I can’t provide anything to prove this, other than it’s a possible issue and proof point to that.

    The refusal came down to, they couldn’t get to their transformer for about 90 days, so they still had an EV and an EV charger, but it couldn’t be used or have final inspection until the power corp could get around to doing theirs.

    Emergencies always take precedence, and you never know if you’re that house on the block that will be the straw to break the back.

    Believe me if you want, or don’t, but that doesn’t change that it’s definitely already an issue.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    It's not a matter of believing you or not. You were asked a simple question and you repeatedly didn't answer it while ending every comment with an insult as if the person you were responding to was an idiot.

    I don't even disagree with you entirely, I don't think it's as big of a problem as you made it out to be but I don't think you're incorrect. You can make those points without being condescending though because the way you're replying will just make people dig their heels in.

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  • [–] -5 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I answered the question quite well actually, if someone comes in with zero knowledge on the subject, how am I supposed to know? Most people who engage in conversations at least have a grasp on the basics before calling someone out.

    I knew right of the bat that the user wasn’t here to discuss in good faith based off how they came at me. Most of my lead up comments to the one they responded to touched on most of what I reexplained to the user.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    If an entire block suddenly goes EV one night the infrastructure isn’t there, it’s slowly being updated which you don’t see, but there’s issues out there.

    Those are you words not mine.

    I’m asking you to provide some back up for your claims.

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  • [–] -4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    If you don’t understand how people could be put on a waitlist to get an EV charger because they can’t get a transformer installed because they the Nth house. I can’t help you.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Was I supposed to pick that up from your comment?

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  • [–] -4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    If you weren’t so focused on the literal definition of “overnight”, yeah.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Yeah I guess that’s my fault for reading the literal words you used as the main part of your argument instead of reading into them the way you just told me to.

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  • [–] -4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Most of what I reexplained to you had already been touched on my comments leading up to our initial conversation.

    So I thought you had a modicum of comprehension for the topic, my apologies that you only came here in bad faith.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I read your conversation and jumped in with my point that things aren’t going to change overnight.

    I figured I made that point pretty clear, but I guess it wasn’t clear enough for some.

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