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These Albertans are among a small minority of Canadians who want to join the U.S. as the 51st state (www.nationalobserver.com)
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[–] 79 points 1 year ago (1 child)

You're free to leave any time you want, the border is right there.

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    To be fair, recent events like https://lemmy.ca/post/41181182 and https://lemmy.ca/post/41102961 or https://lemmy.ca/post/41065802 or https://lemmy.ca/post/41091031 suggest it'd be harder for them to move over to the US now than it used to be. At least as Canadians.

    Most likely, the only realistic option they have for moving to the US would be to attract someone and marryH^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^HH

    The only realistic option for them is for Canada join the US as a single country. Which is still wildly unrealistic. But it's all they have, sad as it is.

    That being said, if a future option opens up - say from a new treaty provides an option where they irreversibly renounce being Canadian in return for getting US citizenship - I wouldn't necessarily say no to that.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    That's not being fair at all. I thought by "harder to move" you meant there was an administrative issue like they're denying people to immigrate there.

    It's exactly what these idiots want so they should just move. You think they'll treat us better once we become the 51st state? They don't even treat their current 50 states well.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    It’s exactly what these idiots want so they should just move.

    It's not like I disagree with you on this, but... who says they can? How would they do it? It sounds to me like you're suggesting they just pack a trailer, drive south, overstay and live as undocumented migrants.

    There'd be a certain poetic justice in that, to be sure, but anyone with two brain cells would be able to understand why living in Canada with full citizenship is better.

    I thought by “harder to move” you meant ... like they’re denying people to immigrate there.

    Yes! That's exactly what I meant. These folks can't just waltz down into the US of A and expect to stay forever. They have to comply with the existing immigration programs, which rather ironically are harder to comply with under the current administration in the US. Heck, even visiting or working in the US is getting harder.

    Granted my above references were more towards the latter, rather than with immigrating per se. We're only a few months in to this term, so we haven't had time to accumulate the data to see trends yet. But in his first term, the number of green cards that got issued by the US was cut down sharply, https://www.cato.org/blog/president-trump-reduced-legal-immigration-he-did-not-reduce-illegal-immigration or see https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/trump-restrictions-legal-immigration-second-term-rcna151994 if you want a less biased and more neutral source.

    You think they’ll treat us better once we become the 51st state?

    Oh, heck no. I can't find it now but I recall one of the administration officials saying that Canada wouldn't even be a state, it'd be treated like Puerto Rico (a territory with no voting rights).

    Basically, we've got to be prepared to defend this country to the death.

    They don’t even treat their current 50 states well.

    Yes, I know - I only recently escaped myself from that.

    there was an administrative issue

    Depends on how one defines "administrative" I suppose, but the term is not inaccurate. You could also categorize it as a political issue, as well as a legal issue.

    That’s not being fair at all.

    Edit: Enjoy your upvote!

    Now, there's a huge irony here. These folks like the guy currently running the show down south, even as he makes it harder for them to (legally) join him and his country.

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