Since you mention game guides, I'll say that a traditional forum is a far better fit than Discord. The problem is convincing everyone else of that fact. Every open source project or software package seems to use Discord for its help "forums" now, but Discord wasn't designed for cumulative, searchable, long-term discussions.

To give a personal anecdote, I was trying to follow BlenderGuru's donut tutorial, and was stuck on something or other. Of course, BlenderGuru has a Discord, and there's a channel specifically for questions about his donut tutorial. I ask my question, and it flies off the top of the screen like a barrel going over Niagara Falls, never to be seen again.

Since you don't specify what game, I'm assuming you're looking to start a general gaming forum. That's probably a smarter bet than dedicating a forum to a single game, and so a much smaller pool of potential forum members. Most people may need some convincing to join a traditional forum after years of Reddit, Discord, and Facebook. You could perhaps lean into the traditional forum angle, trying to attract people nostalgic for slower, more long lasting, and personal style of communication offered by forums.

If you have the admin skills and don't expect a lot of concurrent users, a VPS is cheap, so the risk is low. I'd say go for it anyway.

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    > @julian said: > > @dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone good god did you reply to an 11 year old post? ๐Ÿ˜

    Thread necromancy is why forums are awesome! I've posted about this elsewhere, but with forums, you can have a single thread go on for years as long as people keep posting. On aggregator-type sites like Reddit that prioritize new content over old but still relevant content, you have to make new posts about the same topic once the old post drops off the first page because nobody's going to go looking for it. I have a thread on a phpBB forum that's been going for years, but I had to abandon an identical thread on Lemmy once it dropped off the first page.

    > @Kowlin said: > > it encourages someone to just get something out there fast for upvotes. Not thinking too much about the content they share

    I think that applies mostly to sites where total votes are tracked per user like Reddit's karma system, but yes I agree. Lemmy for example doesn't track upvotes per user, only per post and comment, so there's less incentive to karma farm. It does encourage echo chambers as you suggest, where dissenting opinions are buried. The default sorting algorithm on sites like Reddit and its clones counts votes as well as post age (another gripe of mine).

    I also think it makes for less meaningful interactions. I've stated this elsewhere on here. Instead of saying "I liked this because..." or "I disagree because..." you just click a button to change a number.

    I think voting does have merit for Q&A or how-to topics, where you can use it to quickly see what's good advice vs bad when you may not be familiar with the topic.

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  • I'm not sure what "switch-appropriate" means in this context.

    Also not sure if you mean forums running nodeBB specifically or just any forum. I'm on a few, mainly for worldbuilding and constructed languages. The CBB forum and The ZBB. There's a lot of overlap in user base between the two, though I prefer the former. Both run phpBB. There's also Anthologica which is running custom software with features that cater to the conlanging community. I attempted to make a nodeBB instance for these topics, which is why I have an account here. But I decided that the hobby was too niche to risk spreading it thinner.

    I hang out on some video game forums too. The Minecraft Forum is a shadow of what it used to be when the game was in beta. I was just on The Terraria forums yesterday. I apparently don't have an account there but I can swear I posted there back in 2012.

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  • Forum Wiki (community.nodebb.org)
     

    I'm not sure this is a feature request so much as me thinking out loud. Forums that last long enough become deep repositories of information, if not generally then at least for the forum's members. The problem is that long threads can be hard to navigate especially for newcomers. Perhaps an on-board wiki could be useful for organizing the community's collective knowledge. There could be a way to link between wiki pages and forum posts, and perhaps a way to archive a thread as a wiki page.

    This might make more sense as a plugin.

     

    To me, the strength of traditional forums lies in the longevity of topics. Unlike Reddit and its fediverse clones, which have a sorting algorithm that prioritizes new content rather than old but still relevant content, forums present threads in reverse chronological order based on the last reply, meaning as long as people are talking, the topic remains seen.

    Consider the following example. Let's say I'm on a classic car forum and want to post about a restoration project I'm working on. I start a topic, explain what I'm doing in the OP, and post updates as replies. Others can follow the progress of my project and give comments and feedback by replying in that one thread. The project may take months or years, but that single topic will remain relevant and visible for as long as the community thinks it should be relevant, demonstrated by myself and other members posting replies. In time the topic may become an enduring facet of the forum's culture.

    Now let's consider the same project undertaken on a redditlike site like Lemmy or Piefed or indeed Reddit itself. The default sorting algorithm causes posts to appear lower and lower down the list as time goes on. It also takes votes into account, which is another bone of contention I have with these platforms that I will address later. Anyway, I make my OP and others comment on it, but after a few days it's buried under newer threads, meaning new people (or old people who don't bookmark it) will probably never find it. The only solution is to post updates as brand new threads, which makes it hard to follow for newcomers and fractures the discussion. If I want to post updates frequently I end up spamming people's feeds and crowding out other stuff. On Reddit they even lock posts after six months, further aggravating the issue. I've experienced this firsthand, posting similar topics on a traditional phpBB forum and Lemmy. The phpBB thread hasn't left the front page of the subforum in the 2 years it's been there, with plenty of discussion by other users. Meanwhile, the Lemmy thread plummeted to irrelevance after a few days and I had to post new content as new threads, clogging the feed.

    The multithreaded nature of comments on redditlike platforms also means you can't reply to more than one person at a time, you have to make multiple replies under each comment you want to reply to. This is in contrast to traditional forums where you can quote multiple users. Now this is potentially where redditlikes have an advantage. Even though you can't reply to multiple posts at once, multithreading replies makes the post as a whole easier to search by hand. Each top level reply can be it's own little mini post, and replies to that reply are sorted directly under it. While this makes the overall timeline of posts hard to follow, it makes it easier to find specific information because off-topic ramblings are clearly marked as long comment chains. When I bring up how I miss traditional forums, this is what people seem to bring up most often, that long threads that go on for years are hard to follow because they're discussing a completely different thing on page 33 vs page 1.

    As for the voting system, I think it can have a place when searching for solutions to a problem or looking for advice, especially when you're not familiar with the subject and don't know what's good advice and what's nonsense (RIP YouTube dislike button). But outside of this narrow context I think voting systems are harmful to the community. They encourage echo chambers and reduce engagement to making a number go up or down. On a traditional forum if I want to express my opinion I have to post a comment. With a voting system it's just a number. They also feed social media addiction because monkey brain like number go up, and you can see this firsthand with karma farming on Reddit.

    Such a seemingly little thing as the default sorting behavior of topics drastically changes the community's culture. On Lemmy at least, you can replicate the traditional forum experience by sorting topics by "latest comment" and even mimic the flat single-threaded comment structure in individual posts by using the "chat" option and sorting by old, but nobody does that, so the culture develops around the default.

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    CDNs like Cloudflare seem to mitigate things to some degree. I self host a little instance of Mediawiki. Before putting it behind Cloudflare I was getting a firehose of requests, now it's just Cloudflare's caching thingy doing it's thing.

    I'm not sure it does anything about AI crawlers other than taking the load off the end server and on to the CDN, so it's probably not stopping the clankers from stealing your data.

    Using Cloudflare has its own host of issues though, namely concentrating a bunch of stuff behind a single point of failure as was seen a few weeks ago.

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