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[–] 231 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Who ever thought punk was not progressive? At minimum it was blatantly anti-authoritarian and counter to the conservative culture in Thatcher's UK and Reagan's US. Why would anyone be shocked to find out that it was also pro-choice, feminist, and anti-discriminatory?

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  • [–] 148 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Because the Nazi skinheads did a great job of co-opting the punk title for most people who weren't actually interested in punk. The news media were very complicit in pushing that specific image to undermine the punk movement to the general public.

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  • [–] 64 points 2 years ago (8 children)

    That's new to me. Where I live, punks and skinheads are natural enemies

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  • [–] 61 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

    Like skinheads and goths, or skinheads and greasers, or skinheads and other skinheads

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  • [–] 35 points 2 years ago* (3 children)

    Labor skinheads and neonazi skinheads.

    I was so sad when I discovered the Hammerskins were a thing (a White Power band inspired by Pink Floyd's Waiting For The Worms, but without the irony, with a corresponding militant movement). The Hammerskins took their logo:

    From the Hammers banner from the movie version of Pink Floyd's The Wall

    Which means when I reference the Hammers in parody of white power movements, I risk being associated with an actual white power movement.

    If they had balls, they'd call themselves The Worms.

    <looking up to make sure The Worms isn't a social movement yet>

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  • [–] 37 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

    The Nazi skinheads co-opted skinhead. After the Geraldo Rivera episode everyone I knew let their hair grow out because they didn't want to be associated with that shit. Before that there were only a few isolated scenes where you'd see Nazi skinheads. Cutting off your hair was popular in the hardcore punk scenes because it was contrary to the long feathered hair popular in the 70's and 80's plus it was a lot easier than trying to get a Mohawk to stand up straight. That took a whole can of hairspray and we were all broke.

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  • [–] 31 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Because the Nazi skinheads did a great job of co-opting the punk title

    Nah. They tried REAL hard to infiltrate and take over, but real punks always managed to repel them.

    for most people who weren't actually interested in punk

    And/or were just old fogies.

    The news media were very complicit in pushing that specific image to undermine the punk movement to the general public.

    Corporate news and undermining left wing people by conflating them with far right hate clubs. Name a more iconic duo.

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    [–] 91 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Obligatory "Nazi punks fuck off"

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    [–] 75 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    The Right hated Rock and Roll back in the 1950s because you had white kids listening to dangerous 'race music.'

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  • [–] 32 points 2 years ago* (3 children)

    Same with rap in the 90-00s and even still to this day to some extent.

    And I’m pretty damned sure some moderate liberals were wrapped up in it as well. It is America after all, where everyone’s a judgmental bigot.

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  • [–] 73 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    I love seeing stuff like this, but I absolutely HATE that we are all still fighting for these rights and such basic shit is not long since codified into law. What the fuck.

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    [–] 72 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    It's crazy how like delusioned people are Like punk is all about punching Nazis and Star wars has always been political The empire is basically a Nazi analog

    Like come on man

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  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Star Trek has gone woke is the one that gets me. Let That Be Your Last Battlefield was not subtle and by the time of Far Beyond the Stars they weren't bothering with analogs.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    Don't know about the Nazi analogy, but in the original Book (The adventures of Luke Skywalker) on which the original movies are based, the emperor is literally described as being Nixon.

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    [–] 69 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    My favourite is when conservatives complain that Rage Against The Machine has gotten too political.

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    [–] 69 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

    Another picture:

    And a better shot of the yellow pin, since it's at a weird angle:

    A yellow pin reading "Keep the feds out of our beds".

    Link to the music video in which the jacket appears (albeit without the pins).

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  • [–] 57 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    If you want a good laugh, ask a boomer what woke means, they have no idea

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    [–] 39 points 2 years ago* (4 children)

    Brought to you by the people that think Star Trek is too woke these days.

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    [–] 35 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    That's only six pieces of flair.

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  • [–] 27 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    conservatives and reactionaries either want to keep the status quo or regress, but they know the concept is super uncool so they have to do all these mental gymnastics to pretend progressives are the ones in charge (just by the virtue of slow progress through the decades) so by being regressive they're actually part of an anti-establishment subculture. it's wild, but you can't be conservative without seeing the world upside down so it tracks in a sense.

    that's why some of them like bands like rage against the machine, not realizing they are the machine the band is talking about.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I kinda felt bad when Paul Ryan said his favorite was Rage and they dissed him of course. Would stink to have your favorite band literally hate you.

    Was also like bruh how are you processing these lyrics???

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  • [–] 26 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    They are so woke, their wokeness needs to be in a fucking museum!

    It's almost as if they don't give a damn about their bad reputation.

    Also, there is a need for this Video in this thread.

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    [–] 24 points 2 years ago

    Reminds me of a video of conservative rage fans learning that rage is progressive.

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  • [+] 18 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)
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