EvolvedTurtle comments on Joan Jett Rule

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[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (1 child)

Basically what happened is some people started to pretend good art has absolutely no politics in it, except they decided what constitutes as politics, usually giving free pass to the "offensive humor" types like South Park and iDubbz.

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[–] nonfuinoncuro@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago (1 child)

damn I had to look up what idubbz is and it just... seems so unappealing

why are all these YouTube "celebrities" so lame is it really just cause they happened to be appealing to tweens when cell phones were invented

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[–] Rev3rze@feddit.nl 9 points 2 years ago*

The appeal of iDubbz back in the content cop days was that it was unfiltered and gritty. I never much cared for the jackass style shock factor things he did together with filthy Frank but he was the king of burning down vapid youtube one-day-wonders like ricegum.

It has a huge "you had to be there" factor nowadays though in my opinion. I have never felt compelled to go back and rewatch anything because it just doesn't seem to fit into this era of the internet.

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[–] then_three_more@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Star Trek has gone woke is the one that gets me. Let That Be Your Last Battlefield was not subtle and by the time of Far Beyond the Stars they weren't bothering with analogs.

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[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago

TNG had an episode centered on discrimination of non-typical gender identity and conversion therapy over 30 years ago.

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[–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

TBF, Avery Brooks fought like hell to get Far Beyond The Stars as uncomfortable as it was. Berman and the network wanted it to be a trite little story about a sci-fi writer; almost all the racism, discrimination, etc was Brooks pushing back on them.

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[–] yuri@pawb.social 2 points 2 years ago

Far Beyond the Stars is my absolute favorite, It’s Only a Paper Moon is a close second. DS9 is top tier sci-fi in my book.

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[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 12 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Don't know about the Nazi analogy, but in the original Book (The adventures of Luke Skywalker) on which the original movies are based, the emperor is literally described as being Nixon.

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[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago

the emperor is literally described as being Nixon.

Now strike me down in your hate and anger. Aroooo!

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[–] bestagon@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (1 child)

You’re kidding, right? They’re literally called stormtroopers

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[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 7 points 2 years ago

It's like Lucas was accusing America of doing things Nazis would do! But that's unpossible!

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[–] Daxtron2@startrek.website 7 points 2 years ago (1 child)

The book is a novelization of the screenplay for the first film.

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[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 years ago (1 child)

Doesn't matter. Star Wars was political from the start.

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[–] Daxtron2@startrek.website 2 points 2 years ago

Agreed, just pointing out that the book was not source material

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[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

The Empire is America, the rebels were the Vietcong. Lucas has said this specifically in multiple interviews. The Nazis helped with the uniforms, but The Empire is directly based on Wilsonian Doctrine.

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[–] null@slrpnk.net 7 points 2 years ago

Here, you seem to be running low: . . . .

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[–] Slovene@feddit.nl 4 points 2 years ago

Don't forget Star Trek.