Re: the last bit:

riker fucking anything that moves and playing trombone checks out. life on a starship is just extended band camp for him

Jean-Luc Picard is Indiana Jones... fight me. :-P

I think it’s proof that much like actual people, well developed characters are complex and do not fit neatly into boxes.

*stabbed in the heart, run completely through, and fucking laughed about it!

I think this applies to their youths, but the pendulum definitely swung on both characters and it is the "casual" perception by the time the shows take place I think

Yeah but...

Picard: Broke more hearts than he can remember.

Also Picard: Had his heart broken. Literally.

I think part of the difference is also who they were during academy years and who they are at the time of the shows.

Can’t they both have washboard abs?

Lol what if Shatner played Picard and Stewart played Kirk

I’m laughing at this since we are mixing Prime Timeline Kirk with Kelvin Timeline Kirk.

I really love the way SNW is filling in that transition period where Kirk’s this hard driving, blue flame, academy nerd, who’s out be youngest captain ever, but he’s also deeply head over heals in love with Carol. And how it becomes obvious that when Carol breaks his heart soon he’s going start acting out and pretending he’s some kind of slut during the TOS period. But we all know he’s just crying inside because the love of his life has dumped him.

Picard also told the federation entirely to go fuck itself on synthetics' rights.