Obligatory what the fuck is wrong with how the US pays service people.
Tipping is for special appreciation, not basic sustenance.
Obligatory what the fuck is wrong with how the US pays service people.
Tipping is for special appreciation, not basic sustenance.
I like how all stores even the shady ones like dollar general now want you to give money to some 'charity' at check out. Like I'm going to help them with some tax dodging scam they are running. I no longer tip anywhere I go. I don't go to the places that force a tip on you.
I used to think this way until someone on lemmy told me it wasn't the case. Those donations are nontaxable - it goes directly to those charities.
The peer pressure based donation for enabling corporate tax evasion is BS. It should be disallowed because all itβs doing is letting big corps not pay their due taxes
on the one hand, tipping is toxic and enables exploitation
on the other hand, i respect the grind and understand life is hard out there for people just trying to get by
I'll usually tip 20% for delivery drivers because going literal MILES to bring me my food is objectively more daunting than crossing a room.
I always tip my pizza delivery driver, but he's also the owner of the business and the guy making the pizza, and the pizza is fucking awesome.
local pizza joints are a t r e a s u r e .
My favorite place, i love their pasta dishes even more than their pies. THEY get the big tips!
What does he do when multiple people order for delivery at once?
Make as many as'll fit in the oven and then deliver those. He only delivers locally and it usually takes 60 to 90 minutes to arrive, so it's better to pre-order.
, i respect the grind and understand life is hard out there for people just trying to get by
Exactly, if appropriate I would tip someone even if theyβre adequately paid by their employer. Though I think it would make more sense if the minimum wage is raised instead. I also get why some cultures dislike tipping, so I just treat it on a case by case basis
$29.75
10% - Move the decimal. $2.975
Round up - $3.00
Half that for 5% - $1.50
15% - $4.50
Double for 20% - $6.00
Or get rid of tipping.
That's a completely separate situation.
Yes, tipping culture is out of control and needs to be abolished. But screwing over the wait staff or delivery driver currently providing you service will never have any impact on the big wigs that made the decision to play them less than minimum wage.
Why is this so difficult for people?
Pay reasonable tips for reasonable service people paid under minimum wage. Also work with your local politicians to eliminate tipping. Do not withold tips from people working under minimum wage unless you just want to be part of the boot stepping on them.
Why is this so difficult for people?
Because, for the people who refuse to "get it," it isn't actually about exploitation or whatever other lip service they give to make themselves seem magnanimous for not tipping, it's about the fact that they don't want to give the delivery driver a penny and have to lie to you and themselves so they think they're good people. They're not, though. If they were they'd see it like you do, they're just selfish and deep down they know it so they concoct their lies to defer blame from their conscience.
Euro version:
service was OK - round up to 30β¬
service was good - give 2β¬ extra
service was exceptional - give 5β¬ extra
(doesn't scale with the price of the food)
Italian version:
Pay exactly β¬29,75 and guard the receipt with your life, or you're in trouble.
Fuck people that expect and pressure for tips. Itβs literally optional.
Pressure your manager instead
In my experience, no one has ever pressured me for a tip. But again, thatβs just me so I feel bad if youβve experienced that
why is the customer made the butt of the joke here?
Because they took forever to add a $1 tip to the total (as they indicate by saying it takes them a while to do the math)
People tip pizza guys a dollar? Man, we were tipping $5 back in the 90's. I tip $10-$12 now. The dude just drove to my house and brought me pizza, he deserves some compensation.
compensation... for doing the job he is paid to do... right.
look, if you live at the end of a long shitty dirt road, or maybe the last apartment on the top floor of a 6 story walk up - then they're going above and beyond. Hell yeah, tip more.
Tip to be nice, because times are tough and you have some extra cash.
But don't tip because someone did the bare minimum that they get paid to do anyway.
Don't tip because it's expected. Don't tip if you can't afford it.
you, by simply spending what little you have and can, are helping pay their wage already. You're doing your part. That is: don't feel guilty if you can't or don't tip.
Do feel warm and fuzzy if you can and do tip, though. it's still nice to do :)
Not that I agree with it, but in no time in the 90s did I know of pizza delivery that wasnβt tips-dependent, like restaurants in places. No gas reimbursement or anything at minimum. And this was in Canada where tip culture is dampened compared to the US.
Don't they get paid by the service that decided to be in the food delivery business?
At Domino's about 7 years ago, we got paid minimum wage, plus I think a dollar per delivery item, (multiple houses on some trips when we were busy counted each order) and then tips on top. That per order bonus I think has gone up since then.
They charged the customer a $3.50 delivery fee though.
There was also a class action suit that showed that the per delivery bonus didn't cover the wear and tear and gas for the delivery, and could push the driver under minimum wage if they didn't get tips.
Americans have to use their own care? Wtf?
Yup, but of course according to the selfish they don't deserve tips for that. Personally I think we should all just stop delivering and force everyone to pick up. People clearly don't appreciate it, why put wear and tear on your car and soul for people who actively hate you, y'know?
They usually get paid minimum wage, and people delivering pizzas for a living typically don't have a whole lot of choices for what they do to make ends meet.
Agreed, people got mad at me for suggesting literally the same hah Β―_ (γ)_/Β―
Edit: in their defense, I think they objected more to the idea that a delivery person should avoid anyone who doesnβt tip. I get why theyβd feel that way, itβs understandable
Tipping culture aside, how is the US so behind the times on payment systems? Everywhere else you tap on a machine, and if tip is needed you can enter the percent or dollar amount. What is this paper signing bull shit from the 60s?
This is mostly the same in the us. It's less common for drivers though, because you typically pay when you place the order and the driver just has you sign the paper as acknowledgement that you got the order.
This way the driver doesn't need to carry around a card machine everywhere they go, instead the slip can go right with the receipt on the hot bag, this also means the driver doesn't need to futz around with figuring out which order the tip goes to since they may have 3 or 4 orders on their run.
I delivered pizzas for a long time, there was about a six month period where we switched to square and it was horrible, people out in the country with no service meant I couldn't run their card, also since the order wasnt processed already, people would argue about the price when we got there, even though they accepted the price on the phone, trying to get a deal since we already drove all the way out.
Signing a slip of paper is the absolute fastest method for a delivery driver and there is no obligation to fill in the 'total' part, you can just put the tip value on the tip line and a line through the total, no math.
Write the number 5 on a piece of paper and that's it, faster than any machine, no hiccups with cell service, no batteries to keep charged, no greasy fingerprints on the screen. No worry about dropping it down 15 stories of stairs at a hotel, etc.
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