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[–] [S] 133 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (7 children)

I think Ben Stiller just completely missed the mark with Zoolander 2 and it's good that he realizes it. It happens, not everything's gonna land the way you thought it would. But people really need to just stop making sequels to comedies years if not decades after the originals. It rarely ever works because comedy changes over time. Some humor doesn't age well but more importantly some premises just don't work well outside of the era they were conceptualized in because they were a reflection of that period. There are some exceptions of course but I've been burned too many times by shitty - purposeless sequels.

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  • [–] 80 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Also, the original worked because it was a new idea, same as Anchorman. Take a profession, ratchet the stupid up to 11 and have fun with it.

    The sequel doesnt have the same "fresh ground" to walk over.

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  • [–] 32 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Super Troopers 2 has the same problem. It essentially is the same movie so the good jokes don't hit hard since they're just more of the same, and the new jokes felt like they were just cut out of the first one for not being good enough.

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  • [–] 16 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I wish I could argue this point but I cant.

    Super Troopers 2 at least felt like a fun revist though, probably because you know the Broken Lizard guys really are friends and it probably wasnt just a pay cheque for them. Even their more mediocre standalone films get a huge boost from that.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

    And this is why I'm skeptical about Deadpool &Wolverine. Deadpool 2 was good because even though Deadpool was great there was still plenty to make fun of in the superhero genre, but I'm not sure if there's enough fresh ground left for a 3rd one .

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  • [–] 22 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    I should probably stop hoping for Blazing Saddles 2

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  • [–] 14 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    History of the World Part 2 was recently released as an 8-part series. I haven't watched it but reviews indicate it's not terrible.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    It has its moments, though not nearly as memorable as the movie. It really helps to be a fan of Mel Brooks' style of humor.

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  • [–] 15 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    I liked the first Zoolander movie and I’m surprised I didn’t even realize they made a second one. I may have to watch it just because it exists and maybe now that I have a super low expectation it will not be so bad.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    It's as good as the fourth Matrix movie, or Dumb & Dumber Too.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Hey the first like, ~40 minutes of the fourth Matrix isn't that bad. It's just after the Wachowski's were finished making fun of the concept of lame milquetoast sequels trying desperately to do more of the same, they actually went and made one.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    For what it's worth, Zoolander still holds up, even if some of the jokes from that era will fly over people's heads.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago

    I recall him saying a year or two back that he ultimately thinks it's a good thing it failed, too, because, if it'd done well, he probably wouldn't have gone onto do more serious things like Escape At Dannemora and Severance.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago

    I agree in part, I think that making a sequel decades after the original IRL and story-wise and updating the ideas and humour to not be the same as in the original might be worth it. But that would require an actual new idea that somehow aligns with characters strong enough to make it reasonable to make a sequel and not a new IP.

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  • [–] 50 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Wait... there was a Zoolander 2?

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    It's about the same quality as Anchorman 2. Meaning it just seemed like a remake of the first movie. A lot of the scenes I watched and might have laughed a bit, but there was always a better scene from the first movie to compare it to. I think that took away from my enjoyment.

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  • [–] 46 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    They definitely fucked up the marketing, because this is the first I've heard of it.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago

    I'm unfortunate enough to have seen this in theaters on opening day. It was very bad.

    Luckily we saw Deadpool directly afterward which completely made up for it.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Joe Dirt 2 was so bad as well

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  • [–] [S] 5 points 2 years ago*

    Oh yeah, that was god awful. Fuck Crackle for releasing that garbage out into the world. I'm glad that streamer failed for Sony and the only buyers they could find were the publishers of the Chicken Soup for The Soul book series.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago

    I totally remember choosing not to bother with this one because the first one was perfect.

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