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[–] 69 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Lol, they completely over estimate how many people actually use AI I guess? I have used it like 3 or 4 times ever in 2 years. Im pretty sure I will be iust fine. I would much rather see RAM prices return to normal so everything else would be normal.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    I used it intentionally right when chatgpt came out like twice. I thought it was a neat trick and show off of the advances im computer science and then never touched it again because its novelty ran its course.

    However I do get the occassional annoying auto AI slop that google or whatever does which i actively then tell Ublock to block. I am so sick of this slop being shoved down our throats and into every stupid part of our lives. I wwas looking at appliances yesterday and saw AI powered fridges, fucking kill me.

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    [–] 60 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    What does he think people did 5 years ago?

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  • [–] 38 points 1 week ago (15 children)

    I find the people who are worst at thinking use AI the most.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    So, yeah. About that. A few weeks ago I was hiking with my wife. We saw another couple from out of town in the parking lot and chatted shortly and went our separate ways.

    The trails here are somewhat interconnected and we ended up running back into them at a lookout. They recognised us and asked if we could ID some berries they ate.

    I guess they asked ChatGPT what they were and it told then raspberries, so they ate them. They were in fact not raspberries. They were thimbleberries, which luckily are also edible, but still. They thought they tasted off, but chalked it up to just being wild vs store bought.

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    [–] 20 points 1 week ago* (4 children)

    I'd be 100% fine, and I'm a fucking systems analyst, a job where you'd think AI might actually be helpful.

    But honestly, nope it's not. Even for basic data parsing and analysis, it takes more time for me to double check AIs work, understand what it's doing, then correct its mistakes than it would for me to just do it right the first time.

    Let me put it another way; a job that takes me two hours on my own would probably take at least 3 hours if I had AI do it, when I factor in the proofing and corrections, plus there's the additional cost of the AI itself, so I have a hard time seeing how it will EVER be more cost efficient to use AI. Especially with ai prices keep going up, and its use raises overall energy prices for everyone.

    It rarely saves time, and pretty much never saves money, so I'm kind of wondering what the point is, other than selling a pipe dream to dipshit boomer ceo's that don't understand basic math, but view employees as a wasted expense they want to get rid of

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  • [–] 11 points 1 week ago

    selling a pipe dream to dipshit boomer ceo's that don't understand basic math, but view employees as a wasted expense they want to get rid of

    Seems to me that you totally understand what the point of "AI" is.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 week ago

    it's been said that reverse-engineering takes three times as long as writing it on your own. Yet everyone prefers reverse-engineering stupid ai answers instead of thinking for themselves. Make it make sense

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  • [–] 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

    But honestly, nope it's not. Even for basic data parsing and analysis, it takes more time for me to double check AIs work, understand what it's doing, then correct its mistakes than it would for me to just do it right the first time.

    Because you're doing this. The majority of people bull shit their job and made mistakes with confidence long before AI existed. What kept companies functional were the people like you that actually kept stuff functioning. Finding others mistakes, actually verifying information, etc.

    Do what works best for you. I know that I can't bull shit jobs like a lot of other people. If I don't understand something, or if I put little effort into something, I get fucking bored. And when I'm bored my ADHD literally will not let me work. I can't even do the minimum and BS with AI or something. I literally can't respond to an email.

    I wish I could be like most people and do the bare minimum and be confident. But, I can't.

    It's why I hate my field and have left it now. They forced AI on software developers. Which worked for the code monkeys. It made them really efficient and spitting out spaghetti code. But, the people that wanted to maintain code and stability. We were basically thrown out in a lot of companies. We were slowing down "development". Some of them are still there and they are burned the fuck out trying to keep things afloat.

    You're not wrong. But you're not the average person. The average person doesn't care about understanding something. They just pick the "best guess" on a multiple choice test of life and are fine with it.

    The AI gives them a better chance of picking the right answer. They move on. They don't think about it again and don't care if it was correct or in understanding it.

    And the companies, they are profiting from a bubble. They give zero shits about the product they sell. The entire economy is running like Elon Musk promising "the next big thing" every year for 10 years without delivering. It's all just financial speculation.

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    [–] 17 points 1 week ago

    Dumbest question I've seen all day.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 week ago

    I would have to draw on 48 years of lived experience over 18 months of hallucinated garbage oh noes

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  • [–] 13 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    God that's depressing if it's real.

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    [–] 13 points 1 week ago

    Since I haven’t used AI/LLMs for much at all, the answers are yes without question.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    Not only do I not use a.i. in my job, I can't even think of any way a.i. could be even a minor help.

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    [–] 9 points 1 week ago

    Me being valued for my knowledge and experience again rather than expected to be a glorified babysitter to a child incapable of retaining anything meaningful?

    Ya I could go back to that.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 week ago

    If AI were banned I'd just go back to not being pressured into using something that is a mixed bag in terms of usefulness. Yesterday I used an LLM to try to clean up some tech debt in a codebase. The result is so many code changes that it feels like I should vet what strategies it employed and then once confirmed they are good strategies, make the changes myself in a cleaner and more surgical way. Which wouldn't use a fuckton of electricity like the LLM did. The way the LLM did things edited over 100 files and added tons of comments that won't matter 3 weeks from now. Reviewing all that feels like more work than if I did it myself. I guess I could just blindly trust it if I was an idiot. In the end it may have taught me a couple of things but it's unclear if this is worth it.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 week ago

    I've done my job just fine the last 10 years because I RTFM.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 week ago

    As far as my works concerned it was a lot easier to find manuals and diagrams on Google before the AI steamroller. I know it was essentially there in the shape of the algorithm but clearly something different between these two monsters.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 week ago

    He should chatgpt what people did before chatgpt

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  • [–] 7 points 1 week ago

    I went 18+ years in my career without using it but I sometimes use it now. I could easily go back. Could the moron who wrote that?

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  • [–] 6 points 1 week ago

    I mean I work in a slaughterhouse pulling carcusses with a hook from the cooler out to get cut up. Not sure how losing AI would impact my job.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 week ago

    Oh my god I can’t wait

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  • [–] 6 points 1 week ago

    Yes, yes I would!

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  • [–] 6 points 1 week ago*

    Ummm I don't really use any of those services. I don't see how it's bad to remove something utterly useless 🤷‍♂️

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  • [–] 5 points 1 week ago

    This is exactly what is happening at national scales with "sovereign AI" projects. As if suddenly losing ChatGPT would cripple a country. We'd be just fine. Suddenly lock us out of our John Deer tractors or O365, and it would be another story.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 week ago* (1 child)

    sounds like someone that never done meth. Meth might help you stop using AI.

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    [–] 5 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    It's even worse than the response. I'm struggling to find an elegant analogy, but suffice to say that many of us that use it every day would be totally fine going back to doing it the old way. And the environmental impact! And cognitive impact! Yeah, it would be a change, but it's nothing like meth. (Not that I've ever done meth, but I've known addicts.)

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    [–] 5 points 1 week ago*

    on a abstract level, he is correct, using AI has the same effect as drinking alcohol which has the same effect of doing meth.

    the people who use AI, if it were to all be taken away, would have the same problems (on an abstract level) as say a recovering alcoholic. As for those who haven't relied on it as much, you could think of it as a temporary blackout.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 week ago

    I really hope they’re getting roasted in the comments.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

    It's the worst version of ' if.. then... else' ever invented that get the 'else' part 49% wrong.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 week ago* (3 children)

    amazing how stupid humans have already become.

    Let me bring it further, how many humans could survive 1 week with no phone or Internet ? They probably have never looked something up in a book or gone to a library or wrote a check. Its good to keep all skills sharp and not rely so heavily on billionaire tech. When all this tech was coming into being I thought great, learn that and also learn the standard traditional ways as well. Seems folks forgot that, or they dont want to learn.

    Shut down internet access on your typical 20 year old and see how that goes for them. Heck, age doesn't even matter. Do that to a 60 year old they'll still lose it.

    Here's hoping to more mass cloudflare and Microsoft outages to teach people a lesson.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    You're talking about phones and Internet, but to extend your thought a bit, checks don't work at the scale we run financial transactions anymore, they are scanned and recorded, then data about them is used for settlement, and they have been doing this for decades. But your point stands about phones and the Internet.

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    [–] 3 points 1 week ago

    Guys, be gentle. Most addicts don’t even realize they have a problem.

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  • Go ask that to a nurse, a teachers or a Garbage disposal crew. Look them laugh at you and rethink your life choices.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 week ago

    They should try running chatgpt in their brain when it's not online

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