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[–] 286 points 4 months ago (4 children)

No, he actually said “There is a very real scenario in which personal computing as we know it is dead.”

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  • [–] 12 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    There is a very real scenario in which personal computing as we know it is dead

    I guess that’s technically what he said, just not all of it. 🙄

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    "Anyone who thinks murder is okay is an evil person."

    "Anyone who thinks murder is okay is an evil person."

    Headline: "Local madman says murder is okay."

    I fucking hate this, but in the age of tiktok and instagram, it's a serious problem. I'm afraid to speak in public because soo many things can sound really bad with all the context removed. In fact, it's nearly impossible to take a principled stance without exposing yourself to that risk.

    And then when I say "that's taken out of context and twisted to sound way worse than it is," people hit me with the "cOnTeXt DoEsN't MatTeR!!1!1! tHeRe'S nO wAy To JuStIfY wHaT yOu SaId!"

    No way to justify how it sounds out of context, but if you hear it within context you'll understand that that's not even what I was saying in the first place.

    But people don't care about that. They care about ragebait, content, and engagement. And tech giants can manipulate algorithms to smear anyone who's too vocal against them...

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  • [–] 11 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    If that scenario comes true I will change careers from Computer Science and become either a blacksmith or a woodworker. I am entirely serious.

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    [–] 31 points 4 months ago

    I refuse to own nothing. I will not be happy about it. I will have freedom.

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  • [–] 28 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (4 children)

    Didn't Apple just launch a $600 laptop?

    Edit: everyone made a bunch of really great points. Mine was more about addressing the affordability angle of a dying Personal Computing.

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  • [–] 60 points 4 months ago* (32 children)

    It has indeed. One with 8GB RAM, not upgradable. Strictly limited to MacOS, no Linux no nothing.

    Don't get me wrong, it is a fantastic offer but decisively non-modular and non upgradeable and no freedom of operating system choice. Framework's laptop's are the opposite, they are modular, upgradeable and easily repairable, with replacement parts being sold at a fair price.

    The new Apple Neo has come a long way with a relatively clean interior and decently easy battery replacement procedure. That is less their own doing though and more them preparing for new EU legislation mandating exactly that.

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    [–] 22 points 4 months ago (10 children)

    I'll of course hold on to my current laptop for as long as it lasts, but a Framework will be up next.

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    Between Framework at least trying to build an open ecosystem, there are very very few other options out there. Yes they can probably do better, still they are effectively the only decent open option (for me at least) at a reasonable price and quality.

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  • [–] 37 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Doesn't mean we shouldn't call them out though.

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  • [–] 32 points 4 months ago (7 children)

    Hyprland might have some toxic community issues but calling it the project of Nazis is outright disinformation. The guy behind Omarchy is also likely not a Nazi, he might be called right extreme through, certainly anti-Islam and anti-Immigration. Nothing of that bleeds into the Omarchy project which has really nothing to do with politics. Now the question is are you going to support an apolitical project that you like for its merits, if the key person behind it is far right, or do you not?

    I can understand both positions but just supporting such a project, doesn't make every supporter a right extreme, let alone a Nazi. That is hyperbole.

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  • [–] 17 points 4 months ago* (11 children)

    The guy behind Omarchy is also likely not a Nazi

    He once said London is worse because it has fewer whites. He used some shitty noncommital dogwhistle phrase like "native British" or something like that, but the statistic he referred to (and actually referenced when saying that) was about the percentage of white Londoners. When this was pointed out to him, he didn't go "oops, how embarrassing, let me adjust the statistics I referred to", or "let me clarify my point" or anything like that. He just whined that he wasn't allowed to have an opinion. Not what I'd expect from someone who said white nationalist stuff by accident.

    So, is he a card carrying member of the early 20th century German National Socialist party? No. But I don't think it's overblown to call him a nazi.

    This post has some more details:

    https://tekin.co.uk/2025/09/the-ruby-community-has-a-dhh-problem

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  • [–] 13 points 4 months ago (6 children)

    You realize that "apolitical" is an extremely well-known nazi dog-whistle / pure apologetics these days, right? I'm not saying you shouldn't buy framework, that's your call to make, and my threshold-to-nazi is clearly different from yours, but I do think people should at least look at who they're in bed with.

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  • [–] 15 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Sucks because I was strongly considering Framework for my next laptop. That said, it sounds like they may rethink their sponsorship approach with that bit at the end - they acknowledged the past issues with the Hyprland community but did due diligence, and they plan to involve the community more going forward.

    May be empty promises but time will tell.

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  • [–] 8 points 4 months ago

    I think people saying this is not a problem are downplaying the fact that framework actively decided to support a project with problematic political tendencies at highest role - allow me to be that unconcrete did not read through the entire thing. However I think looking at other manufacturers I see nothing comparable in it's reach that is really a community focused manufacturer. Microsoft straight up supports trump, so do many of the others. I think running lenovo depends on these same programs (correct me if I'm wrong).

    To;Dr: Maybe fascist? idk. But the others support same organisations. Don't they?

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago

    Something about no ethical consumption under capitalism. Perfect is the enemy of good. I agree what they shouldn't be supporting Nazis and that we need groups willing and able to counter the small selection of oligarch owned manufacturing systems.

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    No, it is not. It will never happen until the open source world will keep that relatively conservative mentality

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