No, he actually said “There is a very real scenario in which personal computing as we know it is dead.”
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I refuse to own nothing. I will not be happy about it. I will have freedom.
Didn't Apple just launch a $600 laptop?
Edit: everyone made a bunch of really great points. Mine was more about addressing the affordability angle of a dying Personal Computing.
It has indeed. One with 8GB RAM, not upgradable. Strictly limited to MacOS, no Linux no nothing.
Don't get me wrong, it is a fantastic offer but decisively non-modular and non upgradeable and no freedom of operating system choice. Framework's laptop's are the opposite, they are modular, upgradeable and easily repairable, with replacement parts being sold at a fair price.
The new Apple Neo has come a long way with a relatively clean interior and decently easy battery replacement procedure. That is less their own doing though and more them preparing for new EU legislation mandating exactly that.
One with 8GB RAM, not upgradable. Strictly limited to MacOS, no Linux no nothing.
Which, in the history of computing devices, certainly is nothing new. Apple, and others, has been doing this pretty much forever.
Don’t get me wrong, it is a fantastic offer but decisively non-modular and non upgradeable and no freedom of operating system choice.
Yeah, it's the complete opposite of what Apple II was: the first truly serviceable personal computer with a lot of DIY support and extensibility.
screen replacement isn't too crazy either on those which I do appreciate. the cost of parts is still high tho we'll see if it comes down in the future
Apple is part of the problem
can it run Linux?
Can it? Yes.
Will it? Almost certainly.
Is there something you can install right now? No.
I'll of course hold on to my current laptop for as long as it lasts, but a Framework will be up next.
I feel like an absolute idiot for ever being anti-laptop. I got a framework and my PC immediately became a server. One of the best investments I have ever made.
Now, if only they considered not sponsoring nazis... https://www.theregister.com/2025/10/14/framework_linux_controversy/
Between Framework at least trying to build an open ecosystem, there are very very few other options out there. Yes they can probably do better, still they are effectively the only decent open option (for me at least) at a reasonable price and quality.
Doesn't mean we shouldn't call them out though.
They've been called out. Boyhowdy have they been called out. You can't mention "Framework" on Mastodon without someone chiming in to tell you about all this and try and shame you into not considering a Framework machine. I think they have been sufficiently called out.
Hyprland might have some toxic community issues but calling it the project of Nazis is outright disinformation. The guy behind Omarchy is also likely not a Nazi, he might be called right extreme through, certainly anti-Islam and anti-Immigration. Nothing of that bleeds into the Omarchy project which has really nothing to do with politics. Now the question is are you going to support an apolitical project that you like for its merits, if the key person behind it is far right, or do you not?
I can understand both positions but just supporting such a project, doesn't make every supporter a right extreme, let alone a Nazi. That is hyperbole.
The guy behind Omarchy is also likely not a Nazi
He once said London is worse because it has fewer whites. He used some shitty noncommital dogwhistle phrase like "native British" or something like that, but the statistic he referred to (and actually referenced when saying that) was about the percentage of white Londoners. When this was pointed out to him, he didn't go "oops, how embarrassing, let me adjust the statistics I referred to", or "let me clarify my point" or anything like that. He just whined that he wasn't allowed to have an opinion. Not what I'd expect from someone who said white nationalist stuff by accident.
So, is he a card carrying member of the early 20th century German National Socialist party? No. But I don't think it's overblown to call him a nazi.
This post has some more details:
https://tekin.co.uk/2025/09/the-ruby-community-has-a-dhh-problem
You realize that "apolitical" is an extremely well-known nazi dog-whistle / pure apologetics these days, right? I'm not saying you shouldn't buy framework, that's your call to make, and my threshold-to-nazi is clearly different from yours, but I do think people should at least look at who they're in bed with.
apolitical is also a word with a definition
Sucks because I was strongly considering Framework for my next laptop. That said, it sounds like they may rethink their sponsorship approach with that bit at the end - they acknowledged the past issues with the Hyprland community but did due diligence, and they plan to involve the community more going forward.
May be empty promises but time will tell.
They're literally just sponsoring one of the biggest wms out there, I don't feel like that's abt framework, rather then hyprland/vaxry
What's the excuse for omarchy? It's completely irrelevant.
what computing company hasn't sponsored nazis?
its not a black and white decision
I think people saying this is not a problem are downplaying the fact that framework actively decided to support a project with problematic political tendencies at highest role - allow me to be that unconcrete did not read through the entire thing. However I think looking at other manufacturers I see nothing comparable in it's reach that is really a community focused manufacturer. Microsoft straight up supports trump, so do many of the others. I think running lenovo depends on these same programs (correct me if I'm wrong).
To;Dr: Maybe fascist? idk. But the others support same organisations. Don't they?
Something about no ethical consumption under capitalism. Perfect is the enemy of good. I agree what they shouldn't be supporting Nazis and that we need groups willing and able to counter the small selection of oligarch owned manufacturing systems.
Tenuous at best.
No, it is not. It will never happen until the open source world will keep that relatively conservative mentality
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