Starting in August, installing APKs from unverified developers will require a new procedure called Advanced Flow. It involves enabling developer mode, rebooting the device, and waiting 24 hours with biometric verification.
After that, you choose: allow the APK installation for 7 days or indefinitely. The procedure is a one-time process and applies to all versions of Android.
Will the 24-hour wait stop you from installing APKs outside the store?
It's nice that an American company will enforce a 24-hour cooling-off period for the installation of a few 1s and 0s on a device I already own.
They wouldn't do this for the purchase of a firearm.
This biting satirical take is brought to you by a disillusioned Android user seriously thinking about switching to an iPhone. If a walled garden is inevitable I might as well go where most stuff gets developed for first.
Right, honestly forgot about that. Not something I use personally, but hear a lot of buzz about. Anyhow, could a good thing be then to support companies like Fairphone, who sells their phones with e/OS/ already installed? I'll try and recommend it to my friends, if that is the case.
It is still going to affect us indirectly. The problem is that Google is demanding developers to go through KYC even if they are not distributing their app through the Play Store. Not going through with it means nobody with a stock device will be able to install their app, unless they do that crazy workaround Google claims is going to implement.
This means open source app developers will be called to choose between doxing themselves to Google, or keep developing for us, the 0.01% who is on custom ROMs. It's not hard to imagine that many will just decide to move on and invest their time on doing something else.
GraphenOS is supported only by Pixel. So we're waiting for a port to other devices! Although I think it's impossible, since only Pixel has a security chip.
I'd switch but it's not available for my Fold 7, and I don't want to get a different foldable because I like that this one is as thin and light as a non-foldable when folded. Plus I actually like the gimmicks exclusive to Samsungs (Good Lock is a game-changer). Do I even have any other OS options for this device? Pretty sure the bootloader is uncrackable due to some BS tamper-evident seal in the hardware itself.
(And no, I won't get a regular phone. Once you go foldable, there's no going back. The benefits far outweigh the negatives.)
My mom's phone is filled with so much adware from the damn sponsored apps in Googleplay she can barely use the phone unless I wipe it every three months.
When I checked the security, it was still set to not allow unverified apps and yet...
If Google actually cared about security they ought to stop Samsung from automatically installing TEMU and Candy Crush in their random "updates". It installs that shit whether or not you remove the check marks. The "updates" contain no further updates.
I pre ordered the new jolla phone, but since then I haven't heard anything.
Hopefully this will give me a phone with Linux and Android app compatibility layer, until there is more competition in this sector
Do you have to go through this procedure for every APK or just once?
If it's for every side loaded app, does this include updates of already installed APKs?
That would make the system actual more insecure
As far as I understand, this is done for every application installed. Every time. And it seems that the certificates are not unlimited and they will have to be renewed.
Wanna give a source for that? Everything I read said that after the 24 hour scare screen, you could optionally enable third party installation permanently. Literally nothing about certificates expiring. Where are you even getting this from?
From what I'm reading it sounds like it is not per-app:
Once you confirm you understand the risks, you’re all set to install apps from unverified developers, with the option of enabling for 7 days or indefinitely. For safety, you’ll still see a warning that the app is from an unverified developer, but you can just tap “Install Anyway.”
Not that this makes it ok, this process is still something the vast majority of users will not do in practice and will kill the viability of apps with developers unwilling to show ID to Google.
That's what I'm actually afraid of
Hopefully Linux can soon step up and fill the gap.
On a site note:
I've pre-ordered the new jolla phone in hopes to have pretty much a Linux phone with Android app compatibility layer.
But since my pre-order I haven't heard anything about it anymore and I can't find a blog/news page providing any information about progress or something.
Maybe people in this thread are similarly inclined to Linux phones and have a link for me...?
I've already sent a mail to Jolla about that - but just today...
My entire job relies on an app not on the Play Store. I wonder how this change is going to affect business. They're hiring a lot of people like they either have a backup plan or no idea what's coming.
My boss is Gen Z and as such she's tech illiterate, so she doesn't really understand what I'm trying to say when I voice my concerns.
God I'm such a millennial because I never thought I'd read the sentence "she's gen Z and as such she's tech illiterate." I always figured the next couple generations would just experiment and figure shit out like we did but, phones became the default. Crazy.
While there is definitely an oddly surprising amount of z'ers who seem to barely get tech, I would like to biasedly add that the older of us are largely tech literate, of course exceptions apply. We grew up with computers in the home and at the very least know our way around a file browser. But some folks just a few years under me don't have any other tech then there phones and don't seem to care or even think about pc's.
Got a new job recently and the other person training with me didn't own any kind of pc and said that she didn't like them. It was weird to me I kept asking her like but what about when you need one and it didn't seem that she ever did. As a tech addled fiend I can't fully comprehend this, I can only get by with my phone for so long on certain tasks before I put it down and pull out my computer. But to each their own I guess?
Yeah I feel that. Some things I just find a computer so much easier than a phone to do. Man I hate making spread sheets on my phone so much, give me a keyboard please!
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