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[–] 163 points 2 years ago (51 children)

Employers controlling their workers “time off” is old fashioned dystopia.

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    [–] 106 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    If it's on company time, it's fine.

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    [+] 64 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)
  • [–] 37 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Reading further, walking is only counted at a 0.3 : 1 ratio of distance, for no conceivable reason. So you can run for ~12 minutes or walk for ~1 hr, it seems.

    But why should my bonus be tied to something that is not at all related to my work? Should I get a pay cut if I eat a Dorito? Am I worthy enough of a pittance, CEO? Or should I be jumping through literal hoops?

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    [–] 62 points 2 years ago (18 children)

    My health is nearly none of my employer's business. I will not be telling them when or how I exercise.

    This is a gross invasion of privacy.

    There isn't much difference between a "bonus" and a penalty, given enough notice.

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  • [–] 21 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I kind of like the Japanese culture of the workplace being in charge of the health of their workers. This is why they all exercise for the first 30 min of their shift. If they are overweight, they find a solution.

    Is it invasive? Kind of, yeah. Pretty much. Idk. Maybe the bonus shouldn't ride on the fitness, but I think the workplaces should be more involved in the health of their employees.

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    [–] 61 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (19 children)

    Unless the company is going to allow me to run in company time or pay me my base pay plus overtime on top of the bonus that's a hard fuck no from me.

    Company wants my time, they better damn well pay for it.

    ETA. Thinking about it more, nah this whole running for your bonus is bullshit and I wouldn't do it even if they paid me overtime since running/exercising unless your job is directly related to it, running has nothing to do with work performance which the bonus is based on.

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    [–] 53 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Other than the disability, privacy and disability concerns already raised- Running is SO boring. What if you prefer other cardio activity or a mix of strength training and cardio? Why does it have to be running?

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  • [–] 17 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    I also can’t see how this doesn’t open them up to lawsuits for any injuries incurred from a sprained ankle to a blown out knee or a heart attack. I’m a manager in a large company, and I got a bit nervous at some of the offsite activities, and those were mild things like dunk tanks. Plus I bet the entertainment company or venue carries that insurance. This is literally making the run part of the job, and it’s a relatively dangerous activity.

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    [–] 37 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    The amount of bonus a worker gets is based on the number of miles they complete each month.

    I understand what they're trying to do, but this is just not equitable. You'd have to figure out how to handle this for people who cannot run (such as wheelchair users). This greatly favours those with more free time and less obligations (such as people with no kids). It favours those already in shape and those who have fewer health issues.

    This will favour those who already have it better off, which is the opposite of equity.

    Good idea in theory, but I don't like the model where it's applied based on output.

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    [–] 29 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Run 2 miles/day to receive a bonus of 130% my salary? That seems insanely good value and this is coming from someone who has run about a total of 2 miles since I left school.

    Get the train to work and park just over a mile away, run to catch the train and go to work. After work run back to your car. Instant 130% salary increase

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    [–] 28 points 2 years ago (23 children)

    So disabled employees get no bonuses?

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    [–] 26 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    chairman of a company that makes paper

    Michael Scott energy

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  • [–] 24 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    100km/mo = 3.33km/day or A little over 2 miles a day.

    Which sounds do-able if you're fit and healthy. But what if you're disabled or partially disabled?

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    [–] 23 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    You don't even need to be disabled to be unable to run or do heavy exercises. There are several conditions that can make running painful or impossible, like arthritis, athrosis, hernias, respiratory problems, etc.

    Tying the bonuses to how fit you are is straight up evil. I highly doubt the boss will pay for medical expenses of people that push themselves too far to get the most money, who, ironically, might effectively end up losing that extra money.

    Workers record their exercises and distances using fitness apps.

    Clearly nobody will find a way to cheat that, no siree!

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  • [–] 17 points 2 years ago

    This area has been pretty well explored by Pokemon Go players already. On Android there's an app called defit that has multiple options for adding fake exercise data to your Google fit account which is where Pokemon Go, and typically these insurance apps, pull their info from.

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    [–] 22 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    At one previous company where I worked I started a karate dojo, and I gave voluntarily classes. About 40% of the company regularly trained with me and we all got ripped, it was awesome

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    [–] 22 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    Some guy pushes himself too much, dies from a heart attack and they cancel the initiative

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    [–] 19 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    One of my previous jobs did something similar to this only without reward and public shaming as the punishment. We were all cube workers forced to do army standard tests and training after work.

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