▲ 396 ▼ Company tells employees to run miles each month if they want their bonuses (www.techspot.com) submitted 2 years ago by throws_lemy@lemmy.nz to c/world@lemmy.world 248 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 62 points 2 years ago (3 children) My health is nearly none of my employer's business. I will not be telling them when or how I exercise. This is a gross invasion of privacy. There isn't much difference between a "bonus" and a penalty, given enough notice. permalink fedilink source hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] SendMePhotos@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago (1 child) I kind of like the Japanese culture of the workplace being in charge of the health of their workers. This is why they all exercise for the first 30 min of their shift. If they are overweight, they find a solution. Is it invasive? Kind of, yeah. Pretty much. Idk. Maybe the bonus shouldn't ride on the fitness, but I think the workplaces should be more involved in the health of their employees. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Death_Equity@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago Japan has a fraction of the obesity as the USA.(BMI >/=30, J%:3.8M/3.2F to USA%:43.0M/41.9F) Also they have 1/3rd the % of population with disabilities at 4.3% vs the USA with 13%. I'm not saying the brief forced workout routine by their employers has results, by no means, what I am getting at is that shit wouldn't fly in America and any attempt would end in failure due to our cultural relationship with food. permalink fedilink source parent [–] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) To be fair it is kind of their business just in a very indirect and invasive way. Your health affects your performance, your health affects their health insurance, disability, and life insurance premiums. This means that as far as the faceless entity of a business goes your health is its concern. Now whether we agree to just accept that or not as a whole other story. On a personal level I wouldn't mind my employer being more involved in my health, not invasively or privacy violating like the above. Providing access to nutritionists or trainers, supplementing a gym membership under the agreement that I actually use it. Making exercise equipment and group workout sessions available. Things like that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago "firm in China". Pretty sure China doesn't deal with "health insurance, disability, and life insurance premiums." permalink fedilink source parent [+] Telodzrum@lemmy.world -32 points 2 years ago (4 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] snooggums@kbin.social 49 points 2 years ago (3 children) Imagine single payer healthcare not tied to employment. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] blackn1ght@feddit.uk 4 points 2 years ago I don't have to imagine! permalink fedilink source parent [+] FlowVoid@lemmy.world -11 points 2 years ago (1 child) Imagine Medicare? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] snooggums@kbin.social 17 points 2 years ago (1 child) For everyone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Marsupial@quokk.au 2 points 2 years ago Ah, Australian Medicare. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medicare_(Australia) permalink fedilink source parent [+] SaucySnake@lemmy.world -22 points 2 years ago (1 child) Last thing he needs is lard-ass coworkers driving up taxes permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] snooggums@kbin.social 23 points 2 years ago (2 children) Single payer would be cheaper than the current system. Other countries pay half of what the US does per capita to insure everyone and they have better outcomes because people get care when they need it. Idiots like you are why we can't fix our system because you blame other people instead of the for profit corporations that lobby to keep any kind of progress from happening so they can continue sucking money out of the system. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SaucySnake@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago Who says I'm against single payer healthcare? I was just continuing the joke about lard-ass coworkers. No matter what the healthcare system is a healthier population results in less crowded hospitals and better access to those who need it. permalink fedilink source parent [+] galloog1@lemmy.world -9 points 2 years ago Idiots like them suddenly have a reason to get involved in your life for all the reasons above. Suddenly you are in discussions regarding tobacco and other drugs costing everyone money. You don't exercise? That means you are less of a citizen. This is very much why this would not be a good federal program. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Powerpoint@lemmy.ca 30 points 2 years ago (1 child) Healthcare should not be tied to employment permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) 100% it shouldn't but that's not the point here, and doesn't actually change anything about the topic at hand. The unfortunate reality is that our healthcare is tied to our employment. This also means the side effects of that unfortunate reality are also real. Not that I'm agreeing with the way things are I'm simply explaining that the way things are means that such argument doesn't discount the fax or serve as any sort of counter. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Marsupial@quokk.au 9 points 2 years ago Okay, but this story is about China. permalink fedilink source parent [–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago Company is in China, pretty sure they provide no benefits whatever. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Kase@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago lardass Y'know, something tells me you're just saying this bc you hate fat people. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SendMePhotos@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago (1 child) I kind of like the Japanese culture of the workplace being in charge of the health of their workers. This is why they all exercise for the first 30 min of their shift. If they are overweight, they find a solution. Is it invasive? Kind of, yeah. Pretty much. Idk. Maybe the bonus shouldn't ride on the fitness, but I think the workplaces should be more involved in the health of their employees. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Death_Equity@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago Japan has a fraction of the obesity as the USA.(BMI >/=30, J%:3.8M/3.2F to USA%:43.0M/41.9F) Also they have 1/3rd the % of population with disabilities at 4.3% vs the USA with 13%. I'm not saying the brief forced workout routine by their employers has results, by no means, what I am getting at is that shit wouldn't fly in America and any attempt would end in failure due to our cultural relationship with food. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Death_Equity@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago Japan has a fraction of the obesity as the USA.(BMI >/=30, J%:3.8M/3.2F to USA%:43.0M/41.9F) Also they have 1/3rd the % of population with disabilities at 4.3% vs the USA with 13%. I'm not saying the brief forced workout routine by their employers has results, by no means, what I am getting at is that shit wouldn't fly in America and any attempt would end in failure due to our cultural relationship with food. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) To be fair it is kind of their business just in a very indirect and invasive way. Your health affects your performance, your health affects their health insurance, disability, and life insurance premiums. This means that as far as the faceless entity of a business goes your health is its concern. Now whether we agree to just accept that or not as a whole other story. On a personal level I wouldn't mind my employer being more involved in my health, not invasively or privacy violating like the above. Providing access to nutritionists or trainers, supplementing a gym membership under the agreement that I actually use it. Making exercise equipment and group workout sessions available. Things like that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago "firm in China". Pretty sure China doesn't deal with "health insurance, disability, and life insurance premiums." permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago "firm in China". Pretty sure China doesn't deal with "health insurance, disability, and life insurance premiums." permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Telodzrum@lemmy.world -32 points 2 years ago (4 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] snooggums@kbin.social 49 points 2 years ago (3 children) Imagine single payer healthcare not tied to employment. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] blackn1ght@feddit.uk 4 points 2 years ago I don't have to imagine! permalink fedilink source parent [+] FlowVoid@lemmy.world -11 points 2 years ago (1 child) Imagine Medicare? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] snooggums@kbin.social 17 points 2 years ago (1 child) For everyone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Marsupial@quokk.au 2 points 2 years ago Ah, Australian Medicare. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medicare_(Australia) permalink fedilink source parent [+] SaucySnake@lemmy.world -22 points 2 years ago (1 child) Last thing he needs is lard-ass coworkers driving up taxes permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] snooggums@kbin.social 23 points 2 years ago (2 children) Single payer would be cheaper than the current system. Other countries pay half of what the US does per capita to insure everyone and they have better outcomes because people get care when they need it. Idiots like you are why we can't fix our system because you blame other people instead of the for profit corporations that lobby to keep any kind of progress from happening so they can continue sucking money out of the system. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SaucySnake@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago Who says I'm against single payer healthcare? I was just continuing the joke about lard-ass coworkers. No matter what the healthcare system is a healthier population results in less crowded hospitals and better access to those who need it. permalink fedilink source parent [+] galloog1@lemmy.world -9 points 2 years ago Idiots like them suddenly have a reason to get involved in your life for all the reasons above. Suddenly you are in discussions regarding tobacco and other drugs costing everyone money. You don't exercise? That means you are less of a citizen. This is very much why this would not be a good federal program. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Powerpoint@lemmy.ca 30 points 2 years ago (1 child) Healthcare should not be tied to employment permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) 100% it shouldn't but that's not the point here, and doesn't actually change anything about the topic at hand. The unfortunate reality is that our healthcare is tied to our employment. This also means the side effects of that unfortunate reality are also real. Not that I'm agreeing with the way things are I'm simply explaining that the way things are means that such argument doesn't discount the fax or serve as any sort of counter. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Marsupial@quokk.au 9 points 2 years ago Okay, but this story is about China. permalink fedilink source parent [–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago Company is in China, pretty sure they provide no benefits whatever. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Kase@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago lardass Y'know, something tells me you're just saying this bc you hate fat people. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] snooggums@kbin.social 49 points 2 years ago (3 children) Imagine single payer healthcare not tied to employment. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] blackn1ght@feddit.uk 4 points 2 years ago I don't have to imagine! permalink fedilink source parent [+] FlowVoid@lemmy.world -11 points 2 years ago (1 child) Imagine Medicare? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] snooggums@kbin.social 17 points 2 years ago (1 child) For everyone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Marsupial@quokk.au 2 points 2 years ago Ah, Australian Medicare. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medicare_(Australia) permalink fedilink source parent [+] SaucySnake@lemmy.world -22 points 2 years ago (1 child) Last thing he needs is lard-ass coworkers driving up taxes permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] snooggums@kbin.social 23 points 2 years ago (2 children) Single payer would be cheaper than the current system. Other countries pay half of what the US does per capita to insure everyone and they have better outcomes because people get care when they need it. Idiots like you are why we can't fix our system because you blame other people instead of the for profit corporations that lobby to keep any kind of progress from happening so they can continue sucking money out of the system. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SaucySnake@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago Who says I'm against single payer healthcare? I was just continuing the joke about lard-ass coworkers. No matter what the healthcare system is a healthier population results in less crowded hospitals and better access to those who need it. permalink fedilink source parent [+] galloog1@lemmy.world -9 points 2 years ago Idiots like them suddenly have a reason to get involved in your life for all the reasons above. Suddenly you are in discussions regarding tobacco and other drugs costing everyone money. You don't exercise? That means you are less of a citizen. This is very much why this would not be a good federal program. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] blackn1ght@feddit.uk 4 points 2 years ago I don't have to imagine! permalink fedilink source parent
[+] FlowVoid@lemmy.world -11 points 2 years ago (1 child) Imagine Medicare? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] snooggums@kbin.social 17 points 2 years ago (1 child) For everyone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Marsupial@quokk.au 2 points 2 years ago Ah, Australian Medicare. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medicare_(Australia) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] snooggums@kbin.social 17 points 2 years ago (1 child) For everyone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Marsupial@quokk.au 2 points 2 years ago Ah, Australian Medicare. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medicare_(Australia) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Marsupial@quokk.au 2 points 2 years ago Ah, Australian Medicare. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medicare_(Australia) permalink fedilink source parent
[+] SaucySnake@lemmy.world -22 points 2 years ago (1 child) Last thing he needs is lard-ass coworkers driving up taxes permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] snooggums@kbin.social 23 points 2 years ago (2 children) Single payer would be cheaper than the current system. Other countries pay half of what the US does per capita to insure everyone and they have better outcomes because people get care when they need it. Idiots like you are why we can't fix our system because you blame other people instead of the for profit corporations that lobby to keep any kind of progress from happening so they can continue sucking money out of the system. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SaucySnake@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago Who says I'm against single payer healthcare? I was just continuing the joke about lard-ass coworkers. No matter what the healthcare system is a healthier population results in less crowded hospitals and better access to those who need it. permalink fedilink source parent [+] galloog1@lemmy.world -9 points 2 years ago Idiots like them suddenly have a reason to get involved in your life for all the reasons above. Suddenly you are in discussions regarding tobacco and other drugs costing everyone money. You don't exercise? That means you are less of a citizen. This is very much why this would not be a good federal program. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] snooggums@kbin.social 23 points 2 years ago (2 children) Single payer would be cheaper than the current system. Other countries pay half of what the US does per capita to insure everyone and they have better outcomes because people get care when they need it. Idiots like you are why we can't fix our system because you blame other people instead of the for profit corporations that lobby to keep any kind of progress from happening so they can continue sucking money out of the system. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SaucySnake@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago Who says I'm against single payer healthcare? I was just continuing the joke about lard-ass coworkers. No matter what the healthcare system is a healthier population results in less crowded hospitals and better access to those who need it. permalink fedilink source parent [+] galloog1@lemmy.world -9 points 2 years ago Idiots like them suddenly have a reason to get involved in your life for all the reasons above. Suddenly you are in discussions regarding tobacco and other drugs costing everyone money. You don't exercise? That means you are less of a citizen. This is very much why this would not be a good federal program. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SaucySnake@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago Who says I'm against single payer healthcare? I was just continuing the joke about lard-ass coworkers. No matter what the healthcare system is a healthier population results in less crowded hospitals and better access to those who need it. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] galloog1@lemmy.world -9 points 2 years ago Idiots like them suddenly have a reason to get involved in your life for all the reasons above. Suddenly you are in discussions regarding tobacco and other drugs costing everyone money. You don't exercise? That means you are less of a citizen. This is very much why this would not be a good federal program. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Powerpoint@lemmy.ca 30 points 2 years ago (1 child) Healthcare should not be tied to employment permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) 100% it shouldn't but that's not the point here, and doesn't actually change anything about the topic at hand. The unfortunate reality is that our healthcare is tied to our employment. This also means the side effects of that unfortunate reality are also real. Not that I'm agreeing with the way things are I'm simply explaining that the way things are means that such argument doesn't discount the fax or serve as any sort of counter. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Marsupial@quokk.au 9 points 2 years ago Okay, but this story is about China. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) 100% it shouldn't but that's not the point here, and doesn't actually change anything about the topic at hand. The unfortunate reality is that our healthcare is tied to our employment. This also means the side effects of that unfortunate reality are also real. Not that I'm agreeing with the way things are I'm simply explaining that the way things are means that such argument doesn't discount the fax or serve as any sort of counter. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Marsupial@quokk.au 9 points 2 years ago Okay, but this story is about China. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Marsupial@quokk.au 9 points 2 years ago Okay, but this story is about China. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago Company is in China, pretty sure they provide no benefits whatever. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Kase@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago lardass Y'know, something tells me you're just saying this bc you hate fat people. permalink fedilink source parent