I went to a pc building shop and the price of 64 RAM DDR5 was over $1000. I could have built an entire PC with that price a year ago.

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[–] 123 points 7 months ago (6 children)

The best we can do is just wait when price will fall down after ai bubble will explode

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  • [–] 69 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    Probably but with all the idiots fueled by sunken costs and desperate to prove they were right to invest, it could still last a long time.

    I built a decent PC a couple years ago, and I don't need to upgrade often since I don't really care about cutting edge. So I kinda dodged a bullet, but, this sucks.

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  • [–] 41 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    Honestly the incentive to “upgrade” a gaming PC the past decade is really weak. Aside from a few AAA titles almost all games run just fine on old hardware. Particularly if you ditch Windows.

    So let’s just all refuse to buy this overpriced shit. The same price increases have already happened to GPUs and gamers felt like they “needed” to pay those prices still, nah fuck that, don’t give these greedy pigs a dime.

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    One thing I've run into is not performance with old hardware but missing features from the CPU/GPU. Think of tpm 2.0 requirements for Windows 11. There's other obscure instruction sets that newer games and programs require such as resizeable bar if you want to run a local llm.

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago

    Yeah. I'm on a relatively old build with DDR4, but still a decent processor and GPU. So far gaming have not been an issue with whatever I'm throwing at it. Not much in the way of loading times, and no real problem with the size of it. Some less game-y stuff, like video transcoding and 3D renders, also fine. And while I can see those improving somewhat with DDR5, I'm not sure it's the actual bottleneck. And gaming won't be much better with it… I mean seriously, moving loading times from 3 seconds to 2? I don't really care.

    The real issue will be when things starts to break down, as hardware do over time. It's not that I want to replace the hardware if there's no pressure from the software side, but I will have to if RAM goes bad, or motherboard decide to not power up.

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    64GB of DDR3 RAM in a system of that era is straight nuts!

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    [–] 33 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Clearly the best advice is "Build your PC a year ago"

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  • [–] 13 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Not even. More like 3 months ago.

    The pair of 2x16 DDR5 6000 TEAMGROUP I bought back in April was $90 from Amazon. According to pcpartpicker, pricing started trending upwards late September, which Newegg still had it at $89 (9/30/25; B&H @ $109). The same pair at B&H is currently $439 (12/21/25) and MemoryC is asking $596. It's insane.

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  • [–] 31 points 7 months ago* (3 children)

    One of the commenters said:

    "avoid building a PC right now" is advice I've been following since 2017

    And honestly yeah. I guess at this point if you can afford it, just pull the plug whenever, it's always some bullshit going on the PC Market anyway.

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    [–] 31 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Don't consume any AI products. Don't consume any products made or marketed with AI products. Don't support any companies than invest in AI or are invested in because of AI. Lets kill this nonsense in 2026 and bring computing, jobs and wealth back into the hands of ordinary people. And a prememptive - NO BAILOUT for the tech bros when this shit crashes.

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  • [–] 28 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

    As (relatively) old as they are, midrange Core i5 chips from Intel’s 12th-, 13th-, and 14th-generation Core CPU lineups are still solid choices for budget-to-midrange PC builds.

    I would be hesitant about obtaining secondhand 13th or 14th gen desktop Intel CPUs, since those are the ones that destroy themselves over time. There is no way to know whether they've been run on non-updated BIOSes and damaged themselves. I burned through an i9-13900 and an i9-14900 myself. Started with occasional errors and gradually got worse until they couldn't even get through boot. I am sure that there are lots of people trying to unload damaged processors (knowingly or unknowingly) that have only seen the early stages of damage.

    12th-gen CPUs are safe.

    Consider pre-built systems. A quick glance at Dell’s Alienware lineup and Lenovo’s Legion lineup makes it clear that these towers still aren’t particularly price-competitive with similarly specced self-built PCs. This was true before there was a RAM shortage, and it’s true now. But for certain kinds of PCs, particularly budget PCs, it can still make more sense to buy than to build.

    I just picked up two Alienware PCs for relatives to take advantage of this window, but it was only something like a two-week window, where Dell announced at the beginning of December that they were doing price increases to reflect the RAM shortage mid-December. I believe that that window is closed now (or, well, it might still be cheaper to get DIMMs with a PC than separate, but not to get memory that way at pre-memory-shortage prices any more).

    EDIT: From memory, Lenovo announced that they were doing their RAM-induced price increases at the beginning of January, so for Lenovo, it might still work for another week-and-a-half or so.

    EDIT2: 15th gen Intel CPUs are also safe WRT damage, but like AMD's AM5-socket processors, they can't use DDR4 memory, which is what the author is trying to find a route to do.

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  • [–] 48 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    The sirens of Linux call to you in the meantime.

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    [–] 19 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    IMO, the pricing is an extortion scam rather than a real shortage. People are falling for it because of AI hype narrative. Best to wait it out.

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    [–] 19 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    How about just don't buy a PC for now? I'm sure the machine you've got in good enough. Just hang on to it until the prices come back down

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    [–] 18 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    I guess my ageing i5-8400, 16GB, GTX 1060 rig can keep hobbling along a while yet.

    Although I was amused to see my Legion Go S actually has a more powerful CPU now.

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  • [–] 18 points 7 months ago* (6 children)

    Best advice is grab an AM4 motherboard and go for DD4 ram. You wont notice a difference in performance for majority of games. DDR4 ram and AM4 cpu's are cheap.

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  • [–] 13 points 7 months ago

    How much RAM does a time machine require because that seems to be the basic advice here.

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  • [–] 10 points 7 months ago* (2 children)

    Not a hardware fix, but there's memory compression. It sounds like Windows 11 defaults to having memory compression on:

    https://www.xda-developers.com/little-known-windows-feature-hurting-your-pcs-performance-heres-how-can-disable-it/

    Linux has zswap and zram to do memory compression, which I've mentioned here recently. I don't know of any distros that turn it on by default. It sounds from recent reading like for modern systems with SSD swap, zswap is probably preferable to zram.

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    [–] 8 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Looks like I'm going to be stuck in 2023 for a long long time...

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Is it time to start shucking mini pcs and game consoles?

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    [–] 6 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    So do we expect the cost of gpu's to also rise due to this? Some money is opening up and next year I wanted to upgrade anyway. Might just need to buy it earlier

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