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[–] 164 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (5 children)

If you're wondering what this is about: The PS4 used to require its internal clock to be correct to play any game, even disc based ones, and the only way to do so is to connect to PSN, meaning that in a distant future when the PSN goes down (or Sony no longer allows PS4s to connect to it) all your games would become useless. And the worst part? They did all of this because of trophies.

Sony has fixed the issue on Update 9.0, but the fact that it was ever an issue and caused by a totally non-essential feature is baffling.

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  • [–] 12 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    how would it know if the time wasn't correct

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  • [–] 10 points 10 months ago

    Probably it's like the Nintendo 3DS, the user facing clock is just an offset to the official internal timer, so when the user changes time, it's just an aesthetic change and has no effect to time/date game unlock mechanics (mostly lPokemon games). When CMOS dies, internal clock resets to 1970, a clearly invalid date where all the signing certificates are invalid, and the user can't set internal clock without hacking the console

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    [–] 75 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Remember when printers wouldn’t even warn you that the ink was out? They would just give you a weird magenta ghost of what you were trying to print.

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  • [–] 38 points 10 months ago (1 child)
  • [–] 13 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    I read printers use that ink to print nigh invisible text of the printer serial id for anti forgery, and tracking purposes

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  • [–] 64 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Excuse me what's the ominous "71 days" on the Sonic Adventure game cover am I cursed now

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  • [–] 65 points 10 months ago* (4 children)

    You have 71 days to share this picture with someone else. If you don't, Eggman will crawl out of this meme completely nude and covered in oil.

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  • [–] 41 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    That's disgusting! Uncalled for! Truly despicable! How could they make me wait an entire 71 days for that?!

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  • [–] 47 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (6 children)

    Sega Dreamcast is not an example of a console that I would describe as "built to last". I had two and both of them died in the same way - the optical lens cracked from heat stress and stopped reading disks. There was never any warning it was about to happen, and no way to prevent it as far as I knew.

    As unlucky as I was with the Dreamcast, I made up for it by only ever having to buy one Xbox 360. I still own my original console which was never refurbished and never red ringed on me.

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  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    They should've picked Playstation. Those things are near indestructable.

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    [–] 40 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Okay, now I know why my Dreamcast keeps asking for the time and date every time I turn it on. Always wondered, but never checked because it worked regardless.

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  • [–] 29 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    The battery is soldered in, but it's dead simple to desolder and replace with a proper battery holder so you can easily replace it down the road. Just make sure 6ou remember to use a rechargeable.

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  • [–] 22 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Yeah, if I ever did that, I'd rather take it to someone who knows what they're doing. I have little experience soldering and I don't want to destroy something in my Dreamcast by accident.

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  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    That's fair. I'd consider myself fairly new to it all, I'm not passing judgment but it's worth checking out a vid on how to do... If you've used a soldering iron once or twice you could probably handle it.

    You may also want to (or have your person doing the work) replace the single-shot resistor fuse with a self-healing one while they're in there. Both parts are on the controller board. The fuse is notorious for blowing, and that can make the whole system unable to detect your controllers.

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  • [–] 38 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    But god forbid you unplug a controller while the console is switched on. Better know how to replace that fuse on the controller board!

    (If you just bridge it with a wire, I won't tell anyone).

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  • [–] 21 points 10 months ago* (1 child)

    I was young and did not have access to soldering irons. So I bridged the two pins with aluminium foil and sticky tape.

    It would slowly peel off and my controller would suddenly stop working mid game. I couldn't reboot the console because I couldn't save (no VMUs). So I'd fix it live -- I'd leave the screws out of the case, jiggle my fingers in there and fix it.

    This was fine, worked for most of a year. Until I killed the console by accidentally touching the controller PCB to another PCB whilst doing this fix. I still have the corpse somewhere, to this day I still feel awful about it.

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  • [–] 12 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    Live modding, huh? 😂 Takes me right back to my first PC, whose loudspeaker prevented me from covertly playing games when I was supposed to be sleeping. 😇

    So I opened up the case and figured out that the PC speaker lead had a detachable connector. And the case was flexible enough that if I didn't put all the the screws back in, I could just reach in and plug or unplug the speaker. 👌

    Worked great, except for that one time I got shocked while blindly trying to finagle in the connector⚡🤯 (probably by the CRT assembly; this was one of those PCs that had everything incorporated in the case).

    Thankfully, it must have been all volts and no amps so I was OK, even though I let out quite the yelp. 😁

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    [–] 30 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Game Boy cartridges not saving games due to dead battery is sad.

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    [–] 27 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    To be fair, there are tio many arcade boards from that exact era that have draconian DRM measures where if the CMOS dies, the decryption key is irreversibly lost, and it becomes ewaste

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    [+] 24 points 10 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (6 children)
  • [–] 19 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Let me be the one to introduce you to the rabbit hole that is retr0bright. There are numerous videos on youtube of various different methods of retro-brighting.

    The most scientifically thorough treatment of the phenomenon that I've seen is this paper: https://hackaday.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/The-Retrobright-Mystery.pdf

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  • [+] 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child)
  • [–] 11 points 10 months ago

    No problem, let me just say that I haven't tried it myself but I've watched a lot of videos of other people trying it and the worst results that I've seen have been the ones using a gel that they paint onto the plastic and then cover in plastic wrap. This tends to leave a streaky effect because the substance is not equally thick in every area and so it has more whitening effect where it's thicker.

    The best results that I've seen have been the ones that have completely submerged the plastic in a liquid peroxide solution, or have suspended the plastic above the solution to immerse it in the vapors that evaporate off from the peroxide (pure oxygen). These methods give completely uniform coverage so they whiten the plastic equally in every place.

    It seems that you also need strong UV, and people that live nearer the equator have better success using the sun. But in the absence of good UV lighting, heat also seems to have some effect.

    Good luck!

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  • [–] [S] 11 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Mine's still white, but I'd always heard there were different types of plastic used in consoles (and computer cases) back then, some of which would become discolored, and others wouldn't. Might be true, unless anyone in your house has been a smoker in the last 25 years.

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  • [+] 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)
  • [–] 10 points 10 months ago

    Look up a cleaning solution called 'RetroBright'. It's designed to remove the yellowing from the ABS housings of old electronics. I'm pretty sure the recipe for it is available free online, or you can order pre-mixed bottles of it. You have to be a little careful with it because it's mostly hydrogen peroxide, but I hear it works great.

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    [–] 18 points 10 months ago

    Setting the clock on each boot, after the rechargable CMOS battery died, sucks. I speak from experience with Dreamcast consoles. Best you solder in a battery holder and put in a new rechargable coin cell. ... or add a diode and put in an ordinary non-rechargable.

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  • [–] 13 points 10 months ago

    Then there's the og Xbox and it's clock capacitor. Nothing like grabbing your console out of storage to find out it blew a cap and dissolved some of the traces on the PCB.

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  • [–] 13 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Man, I remember when I used to play the Dreamcast and awesome games like Power Stone 2 and Super Magnetic Neo! The little cartridge inside the controller was awesome too.

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  • [–] 12 points 10 months ago

    Nothing bad even happened to a Dreamcast... Right ?

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  • [–] 11 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Back in the Nintendo era we picked up a copy of Final Fantasy I when the local rental shop went out of business... The battery in it was 100% dead. So my brother would just leave the Nintendo on.

    I don't think I've had a console affected by this though.

    Recently I had an Evercade cart die. It was the flash memory that gave up, though. Not the battery.

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    [–] 8 points 10 months ago

    The CMOS battery of my PSP 3000 died years ago :(

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