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[+] sanity_is_maddening@piefed.social 24 points 10 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (6 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] eleijeep@piefed.social 19 points 10 months ago (3 children) Let me be the one to introduce you to the rabbit hole that is retr0bright. There are numerous videos on youtube of various different methods of retro-brighting. The most scientifically thorough treatment of the phenomenon that I've seen is this paper: https://hackaday.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/The-Retrobright-Mystery.pdf permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 11 points 10 months ago Soak the plastic in hydrogen peroxide and oxy booster stain fighter For the rest of you ADHD havers who don't have the patience to get that write up to fit on your phone screen. permalink fedilink source parent [+] sanity_is_maddening@piefed.social 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] eleijeep@piefed.social 11 points 10 months ago No problem, let me just say that I haven't tried it myself but I've watched a lot of videos of other people trying it and the worst results that I've seen have been the ones using a gel that they paint onto the plastic and then cover in plastic wrap. This tends to leave a streaky effect because the substance is not equally thick in every area and so it has more whitening effect where it's thicker. The best results that I've seen have been the ones that have completely submerged the plastic in a liquid peroxide solution, or have suspended the plastic above the solution to immerse it in the vapors that evaporate off from the peroxide (pure oxygen). These methods give completely uniform coverage so they whiten the plastic equally in every place. It seems that you also need strong UV, and people that live nearer the equator have better success using the sun. But in the absence of good UV lighting, heat also seems to have some effect. Good luck! permalink fedilink source parent [–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 5 points 10 months ago permalink fedilink source parent [–] ysjet@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago (1 child) Just as a quite warning- retrobright will make the plastic of the dreamcast white, but it will also make it more brittle, and it's not a permanent solution. It WILL yellow again, and repeated applications of retrobright will make it more and more brittle. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] sanity_is_maddening@piefed.social 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago Fair warning it will also continue yellowing and getting more and more brittle if you do nothing. Plastic doesn't biodegrade, but it does undergo aging in a way that makes it less durable than traditional materials. Wood can be kept from biodegrading, metal can be kept from corroding, but aging plastic just gets more and more brittle and just really wants to become microplastics permalink fedilink source parent [–] The_Picard_Maneuver@piefed.world [S] 11 points 10 months ago (2 children) Mine's still white, but I'd always heard there were different types of plastic used in consoles (and computer cases) back then, some of which would become discolored, and others wouldn't. Might be true, unless anyone in your house has been a smoker in the last 25 years. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] sanity_is_maddening@piefed.social 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SparroHawc@lemmy.zip 10 points 10 months ago Look up a cleaning solution called 'RetroBright'. It's designed to remove the yellowing from the ABS housings of old electronics. I'm pretty sure the recipe for it is available free online, or you can order pre-mixed bottles of it. You have to be a little careful with it because it's mostly hydrogen peroxide, but I hear it works great. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ysjet@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago You are correct, it's the plastic. Or rather, the fire retardant mixed into the plastic. permalink fedilink source parent [–] tempest@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago If I recall correctly it's related to a fire retardant additive that oxidizes permalink fedilink source parent [–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 8 points 10 months ago (1 child) My DC is still bright white, but my snes looks like it used to smoke. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 6 points 10 months ago that description is so on point permalink fedilink source parent [–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago My Dreamcast is pretty normal, but good God my NES. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago I bought it 20 years ago it was already yellow lol permalink fedilink source parent
[–] eleijeep@piefed.social 19 points 10 months ago (3 children) Let me be the one to introduce you to the rabbit hole that is retr0bright. There are numerous videos on youtube of various different methods of retro-brighting. The most scientifically thorough treatment of the phenomenon that I've seen is this paper: https://hackaday.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/The-Retrobright-Mystery.pdf permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 11 points 10 months ago Soak the plastic in hydrogen peroxide and oxy booster stain fighter For the rest of you ADHD havers who don't have the patience to get that write up to fit on your phone screen. permalink fedilink source parent [+] sanity_is_maddening@piefed.social 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] eleijeep@piefed.social 11 points 10 months ago No problem, let me just say that I haven't tried it myself but I've watched a lot of videos of other people trying it and the worst results that I've seen have been the ones using a gel that they paint onto the plastic and then cover in plastic wrap. This tends to leave a streaky effect because the substance is not equally thick in every area and so it has more whitening effect where it's thicker. The best results that I've seen have been the ones that have completely submerged the plastic in a liquid peroxide solution, or have suspended the plastic above the solution to immerse it in the vapors that evaporate off from the peroxide (pure oxygen). These methods give completely uniform coverage so they whiten the plastic equally in every place. It seems that you also need strong UV, and people that live nearer the equator have better success using the sun. But in the absence of good UV lighting, heat also seems to have some effect. Good luck! permalink fedilink source parent [–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 5 points 10 months ago permalink fedilink source parent
[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 11 points 10 months ago Soak the plastic in hydrogen peroxide and oxy booster stain fighter For the rest of you ADHD havers who don't have the patience to get that write up to fit on your phone screen. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] sanity_is_maddening@piefed.social 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] eleijeep@piefed.social 11 points 10 months ago No problem, let me just say that I haven't tried it myself but I've watched a lot of videos of other people trying it and the worst results that I've seen have been the ones using a gel that they paint onto the plastic and then cover in plastic wrap. This tends to leave a streaky effect because the substance is not equally thick in every area and so it has more whitening effect where it's thicker. The best results that I've seen have been the ones that have completely submerged the plastic in a liquid peroxide solution, or have suspended the plastic above the solution to immerse it in the vapors that evaporate off from the peroxide (pure oxygen). These methods give completely uniform coverage so they whiten the plastic equally in every place. It seems that you also need strong UV, and people that live nearer the equator have better success using the sun. But in the absence of good UV lighting, heat also seems to have some effect. Good luck! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] eleijeep@piefed.social 11 points 10 months ago No problem, let me just say that I haven't tried it myself but I've watched a lot of videos of other people trying it and the worst results that I've seen have been the ones using a gel that they paint onto the plastic and then cover in plastic wrap. This tends to leave a streaky effect because the substance is not equally thick in every area and so it has more whitening effect where it's thicker. The best results that I've seen have been the ones that have completely submerged the plastic in a liquid peroxide solution, or have suspended the plastic above the solution to immerse it in the vapors that evaporate off from the peroxide (pure oxygen). These methods give completely uniform coverage so they whiten the plastic equally in every place. It seems that you also need strong UV, and people that live nearer the equator have better success using the sun. But in the absence of good UV lighting, heat also seems to have some effect. Good luck! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ysjet@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago (1 child) Just as a quite warning- retrobright will make the plastic of the dreamcast white, but it will also make it more brittle, and it's not a permanent solution. It WILL yellow again, and repeated applications of retrobright will make it more and more brittle. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] sanity_is_maddening@piefed.social 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago Fair warning it will also continue yellowing and getting more and more brittle if you do nothing. Plastic doesn't biodegrade, but it does undergo aging in a way that makes it less durable than traditional materials. Wood can be kept from biodegrading, metal can be kept from corroding, but aging plastic just gets more and more brittle and just really wants to become microplastics permalink fedilink source parent
[+] sanity_is_maddening@piefed.social 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago Fair warning it will also continue yellowing and getting more and more brittle if you do nothing. Plastic doesn't biodegrade, but it does undergo aging in a way that makes it less durable than traditional materials. Wood can be kept from biodegrading, metal can be kept from corroding, but aging plastic just gets more and more brittle and just really wants to become microplastics permalink fedilink source parent
[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago Fair warning it will also continue yellowing and getting more and more brittle if you do nothing. Plastic doesn't biodegrade, but it does undergo aging in a way that makes it less durable than traditional materials. Wood can be kept from biodegrading, metal can be kept from corroding, but aging plastic just gets more and more brittle and just really wants to become microplastics permalink fedilink source parent
[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@piefed.world [S] 11 points 10 months ago (2 children) Mine's still white, but I'd always heard there were different types of plastic used in consoles (and computer cases) back then, some of which would become discolored, and others wouldn't. Might be true, unless anyone in your house has been a smoker in the last 25 years. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] sanity_is_maddening@piefed.social 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SparroHawc@lemmy.zip 10 points 10 months ago Look up a cleaning solution called 'RetroBright'. It's designed to remove the yellowing from the ABS housings of old electronics. I'm pretty sure the recipe for it is available free online, or you can order pre-mixed bottles of it. You have to be a little careful with it because it's mostly hydrogen peroxide, but I hear it works great. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ysjet@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago You are correct, it's the plastic. Or rather, the fire retardant mixed into the plastic. permalink fedilink source parent [–] tempest@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago If I recall correctly it's related to a fire retardant additive that oxidizes permalink fedilink source parent
[+] sanity_is_maddening@piefed.social 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SparroHawc@lemmy.zip 10 points 10 months ago Look up a cleaning solution called 'RetroBright'. It's designed to remove the yellowing from the ABS housings of old electronics. I'm pretty sure the recipe for it is available free online, or you can order pre-mixed bottles of it. You have to be a little careful with it because it's mostly hydrogen peroxide, but I hear it works great. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ysjet@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago You are correct, it's the plastic. Or rather, the fire retardant mixed into the plastic. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SparroHawc@lemmy.zip 10 points 10 months ago Look up a cleaning solution called 'RetroBright'. It's designed to remove the yellowing from the ABS housings of old electronics. I'm pretty sure the recipe for it is available free online, or you can order pre-mixed bottles of it. You have to be a little careful with it because it's mostly hydrogen peroxide, but I hear it works great. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ysjet@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago You are correct, it's the plastic. Or rather, the fire retardant mixed into the plastic. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tempest@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago If I recall correctly it's related to a fire retardant additive that oxidizes permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 8 points 10 months ago (1 child) My DC is still bright white, but my snes looks like it used to smoke. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 6 points 10 months ago that description is so on point permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 6 points 10 months ago that description is so on point permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago My Dreamcast is pretty normal, but good God my NES. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago I bought it 20 years ago it was already yellow lol permalink fedilink source parent