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[–] 195 points 2 years ago (4 children)

WTF why did no one mention this to me when I was struggling with math as a kid?

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  • [–] 125 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

    They probably did, just not explicitly:

    You could write (6*1/100)*50 = 6*(50*1/100)

    It only uses the commutative property of multiplication and the fact that % is another way of writing 1/100.

    Maybe also worth remembering that "x% of y" is just x/100*y

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  • [–] 56 points 2 years ago (3 children)
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    The word percent is exactly that per cent, which basically means parts of hundred. E.g. 10% are 10 of 100, or 60% are 60 of 100. You can also write this mathematically as 60/100 or 60÷100, which is 0.6.

    Now in general: x% are x parts of 100 or x/100 or x÷100. If you want to calculate x% of y you just multiply it: y × x% = y × x ÷ 100.

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  • [–] 18 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    I totally remember being taught this. It's just way easier to break down percentages in terms of the nearest 1% or 10% times the number in the percent times the number you're taking the percentage of. You don't have to do the math for the 1 or 10 percentage as long as you remember that a 10% means move the decimal left once and 1% means move the decimal left twice. The rest is just basic multiplication.

    40% of 59 = 10% of 59 times 4.

    So...

    4x59=236

    or

    (4x50=200) + (4x9=36)= 236

    10% means move the decimal left once,

    Therefore 40% of 59 is 23.6

    With that you can easily do more complex percentages mentally like...

    62% of 35 = 10% of 35 times 6 plus 1% of 35 times 2.

    35x6=180+30=210 at 10% so 21

    plus

    35x2=60+10=70 at 1% so 0.7

    Therefore 62% of 35 = 21.7

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  • [–] 16 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Seriously, why didn't anyone?! Would have made my life much easier.

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    [–] 78 points 2 years ago

    ... because multiplication is commutative.

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  • [–] 68 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    69% of 420 is equal to 420% of 69.

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  • [–] 55 points 2 years ago

    Bro that's actually amazing

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  • [–] 48 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Idk if it’s the weed, the adderall, or the ADHD, but this thread is everything I need in my life.

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  • [–] 43 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    33% of 7 = 7% of 33

    Bitch, this only works for certain easy maths.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    1% of 33 is .33

    .33 × 7 =

    .3 x 7 = 2.1

    .03 x 7 = .21

    21 + 2.1 = 2.31

    So

    7% of 33 = 2.31

    You could also do

    33% of 7

    10% of 7 is .7

    1% of 7 is .07

    So 11% is .77

    .77 × 3 =

    .7 × 3 = 2.1

    .07 × 3 = .21

    2.1 + .21 = 2.31

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  • [–] 30 points 2 years ago (7 children)

    ....I mean, yeah? If the number is 50 or 10 that works out great. But let's try that with 7% of 13. Now it's 13% of 7. Just like you said, "much easier to calculate."

    Okay, choosing prime numbers was intentionally mean on my part. But 3% of 9 becomes 9% of 3. 4% of 2 becomes 2% of 4. Can anyone honestly look me in the eye and tell me that this tip has helped them out in any meaningful way?

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  • [–] 35 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    x% × y = x × y ÷ 100 This helps you out much more.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago*

    Its easier:

    10% of a 100: 100 * 0,1 = 10

    2,5% of 33: 33 * 0,025 = 30 * 0,025 + 3 * 0,025 = 0,75 + 0,075 = 0,825

    Thats how I calculate it mostly in my brain. But being smart I usually just type everything (like 9*9) in the calculator xD

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  • [–] 22 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Well, single digit percentages are easy. If it helps, move your decimal to the right so 9% becomes 90%. You can probably calculate 90% of 3 because you can do 10% and subtract it and get 2.7. Now move your decimal back to the left and you get 9% of 3 which is 0.27. You can do the same with higher percentages once you learn to break them in to 10% pieces.

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  • [–] 18 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    You're really asking whether commutativity of multiplication has ever helped anyone? Because that's what this is.

    And yes it has helped me eg. estimate things or whatever along the years – but of course it's not going to be some sort of magical mathematics trick where just by reversing the numbers it'll always make things easier to calculate in your head

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    [–] 24 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I read that now not for the first Time

    I still dont believe it

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  • [–] 25 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    You can work it out yourself. 6% is the same as 6/100, so 6% of 50 is (6/100)*50. Then do some algebra and see if you can jiggle it to say (50/100)*6. Then replace 6 and 50 with Greek letters so it looks more convincing.

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  • [–] 19 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    You could also do 6*50 and then divide by 100.

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    In the meme example you wouldn't, but if you were trying to figure out Something like 2% of 5, it's easier to do (2 * 5)/100=0.1 then to do .02 * 5 or .05 * 2.

    My comment was mainly pointing out that you can multiply those numbers in whatever order you want.

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  • [–] 18 points 2 years ago (2 children)
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    [–] 17 points 2 years ago

    Thanks Panzer

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago*

    Also, a surprising number of people don't know that precentages are more often than not represented as decimals between 0 and 1 as opposed to actually a number out of 100 when used in calculations (because the concept of a percent doesn't really exist in math, it's just a context specific way of formatting a decimal). A lot of people just enter 69 when calculating a formula that operates on a precentage instead of 0.69 which obviously makes the formula useless, or if a formula is supposed to output a precentage, they assume that it output 0.69 percent instead of 69 percent.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Same energy as multiplication with 9, just take 1 from the right side and put it on the left

    (09, 18, 27, 36, 45)

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

    You can multiply by 9 on your fingers.

    Hold hands out, fingers splayed, thumbs towards each other. 🙌

    9*2 put your left ring finger down (the 2nd finger). Left of that is tens place, right of that is the ones place.

    So 1 on the left, 8 on the right of the downed finger.

    9*5 put the left thumb down (5th finger.) 4, 5. 45.

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