A year after he bought Twitter for $44 billion, Musk thinks the company is now worth $19 billion, a 55 percent drop.

Let's recap what he did to Twitter, I will go first:

  • Changed the original name Twitter to X.

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[–] 87 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Is anyone else surprised it's even worth that much?

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  • [–] 19 points 2 years ago*

    Yep. I mean in the end it has no product. It's just billboard/ad space, in the world of commerce. Sure, it's a lot of ad space, but ad space in the digital world is also effectively endless, so the percentage still isn't actually that relevant as it can shift in a moment's notice.

    Say... if a neonazi buys the platform and brings all his friends with him.

    But beyond an office he's not even paying for and so on, Xitter got... nothing. They have no actual product that can be liquidated, no supply chains worth any money, nothing to rent/sell out beyond said adspace. Like many digital companies they rely entirely on hype for all their perceived value.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Honestly it's probably not... Estimates aside, who would even want to buy Twitter in its current incarnation?

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    It still has a big enough user base and brand recognition that they could put things back on course if they really went for it. The only permanent damage is the brain drain from firing a lot of people that has experience in running twitter.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Brand recognition? That's ironic. The Twitter brand had recognition. But you can't say X, you have to say "X, formerly Twitter."

    Otherwise you're right, of course, But I can't see it being resurrected.

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    [–] 42 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    It was never about the money. Musk is turning a once-valuable information space into a fascist shithole. That was always the goal.

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    [–] 37 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    It's obscene that someone can destroy so much value and not go bankrupt. It should not be possible.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    The value only exists on paper. He halved it, he can double it. Happens all the time.

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  • [–] 34 points 2 years ago

    Let's put this another way.

    That ~25 billion, heavily absorbed by foreign investors, has bought influence on worldwide events/elections and allowed those that previously hated the platform to sabotage it internally, likely to a post-election failure.

    Makes you wonder to what degree we have a "useful idiot billionaire" situation, with other interests (countries?) steering the out of control train to their benefit.

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  • [–] 31 points 2 years ago*

    Don’t forget him allowing all the banned Neo-Nazis back on! Advertisers just loved that.

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  • [–] [S] 11 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    'Freedom of Speech Not Reach', I was like isn't the same thing with Shadowbanning? It's so disgusting that he keeps claiming Twitter is the place for online Freedom of Speech but look at what he did.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Controlling the narrative is why he bought it.

    44 billion is chump change to him. I wouldn’t be surprised at all to find his sole motive was to silence critics now that he got outed as a massive douche.

    I rememy when i could call him a massive douche and a faux-engineer and people would pile on as though he actually built the cars himself. (Fact: he’s not a Tesla founder. He bought Tesla. And made them call him a founder.)

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    He didn’t want to buy it, remember? A court forced him after he set wheels in motion as “le epic trolololo” and now that he was forced to buy it, he and his authoritarian backers figure they might as well tank it in order to combat the “woke mind virus” aka people waking up to the feudal lords of late-stage capitalism keeping the scales tipped in their favor eternally.

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  • [–] 16 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    The worst thing he did was change the name. I mean, everyone knew twitter. Now you have to qualify it with "Musk's X"

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    i believe the full name is

    “the company formerly known as Twitter aka Birdsite, Xitter pronounced Shitter aka X”

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago

    While true, I prefer not to dedicate the time to Musk it'd take to type that out.

    ...also, the guy deliberately misgenders his kid and gets upset when people mislabel the platform he's burning to the ground, so do with that what you will.

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  • [–] 16 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    X (formerly known as Twitter)

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    [–] 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    You forgot quite a significant thing when it comes to Twitter's devalutation. Musk delisted Twitter on Nov 8 as part of his acquisition. The worth of a private company is a bit more difficult to figure out compared to the worth of a public company.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    I'm sure the value will come back. Valuing X at $19B puts the value of the whole alphabet at $500B, which seems low for an established technology which has been in continuous use since before the time of the Roman Empire.

    The US GDP is $24 trillion, and all the financial reports supporting that valuation use the Roman Alphabet. The Alphabet is essential to justifying the value of the entire US Economy. I think it's reasonable to value the worth of the alphabet at 8% of GDP, which would give X a fair value of $74B.

    See, haters? Elon really is a financial genius. Numbers don't lie.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago

    Come on. Obviously not all letters in the alphabet are worth the same. X is not that popular even if you take into account its different uses like ':x', 'xoxo' or 'xxx'. Not that many words use x and if one day it collapses and becomes unavailable you can just substitute it with 'ks' like 'seks' or 'meksican'.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    That's the value he think it's worth, not what someone would actually pay for it.

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    [–] 9 points 2 years ago

    I don't think it was even worth half of what he paid for it when he paid for it. Musk is a complete god damned moron. I'd be surprised if the company was even worth $19 billion when he bought it for $44 bn. And there's no way in fuck that it's worth $19 bn now. Absolute dogshit assessment. Not that I'm surprised, mind. It's Musk's assessment, after all.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    He could have just donated all of that to the Signal foundation if he wanted to protect free speech.

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    [–] 6 points 2 years ago

    I just read the news somewhere that they introduced two payment tiers for monthly subscription. Good luck keeping users. There's not a single social network that charges people use. No matter how cheap.

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    [–] 5 points 2 years ago

    Many of his decisions have not been good.

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