Preferably one that doesn't censor search results. Like DuckDuckGo, apparently

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[+] 58 points 2 years ago (13 children)
  • [–] 45 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    Disclaimer: Kagi user here.

    Searches are not pay-per-use anymore. But you still have to be logged in to search. The premise is, that they don't store your searches. It is not their business model. You are the paying customer, not the ad firms. This is, ultimately, not verifiable. It comes down to some sort of trust. And I do trust in them. The developers are actually great guys, there is a discord where they answer immediately, and a discourse forum where you can submit bugs/features, etc.

    They take a strong stance on freedom. They refused to implement a suicide prevention message, as they felt, that it wasbnot the job of the search engine to patronize the user.

    There is such a thing as a 'session link'. You can get it from you account. With this, I don't think cookies are necesary. But the link expires so you have to do it probably every few days anew.

    The thing is: I want to aupport them. They have cool features (up/downranking websites, GPT-4 access over their proxy, etc.) Is it better than self-hosting: no. But I don't wanna self-host. And search is something that costs. So any service that does not live off donations or some sort of payment, is suspicious.

    I hope I explained some of my reasons. Please debunk me and make me cancel my subscription there if I am in the wrong. Im not a shill and actually interested in your concerns :)

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago

    It's probably a leading contender for one of the "best for privacy", especially with their business model and even a warrant canary on their legal page. Their Privacy Policy also does a lot to explain things.

    It is a slightly different claim to being a privacy first or privacy focused search engine. Privacy is more of a close 2nd priority then a 1st and foremost priority. The difference is small but real. For example, Kagi is incorporated in the USA and has to comply with USA laws. Not a country known for its outstanding track record.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    How do you access the GPT4 feature?

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    GPT-4 is for Ultimate users ($25/month). The "weaker" models like GPT-3.5 will be rolled out for Pro users($10/month) in the next few weeks.

    PS: FastGPT+ Summarizer exist as well, but this was not what I was talking about. Those are both somewhat limited AI tools, the GPT thing is the full blown access

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    [–] 40 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)
  • [–] 34 points 2 years ago*

    This was particularly visible on far right subreddits where they began heavily recommending yandex. Because that makes sense. Swapping from a privacy-centric search engine to a literal Russian propaganda conveyor belt? Yeah, sure. No clue how many bit the bait.

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    I honestly like there ads sometimes. I sometimes need to find a product and I don't mind checking out some if the advertisers.

    My only complaint is that it tries to customize results based on your previous searches. It doesn't do this in HTML mode so it must be there data collection from javascript

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  • I bounce around a few public Sear instances, its working great for me

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Kagi, but I hope it legit turns into a contest in a race to the top

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    [–] 9 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I'm fine with DuckDuckGoLite. If I really wanted to have granular control though, I'd spin up my own private searx instance.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Remember you're writing an espionage political thriller, and that's why you have to research thoroughly about navigating the dark web, obtaining rare minerals on the black market, refining radioactive isotopes, and atomic / hydrogen bomb configurations like the tellar-ulam.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago

    I am using metager, but am not sure what qualifies as 'best' as I did not do much comparison.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago

    Whoogle and SearXNG

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago

    I’ve been using Whoogle lately but used Startpage for a while too

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Kagi. But I use Whoogle public instance and pretty happy with it 🙂

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

    I might start using Whoogle too, since Kagi is paid :)

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

    If there were no problems with payment from Russia, then I would gladly pay for kagi. but unfortunately there is no such possibility due to sanctions 🙁

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago

    what do you think ddg censors?

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    In Firefox, enter * in the URL bar.

    Your own Bookmarks and Firefoxes search are the most private search engine. There are literally people googling "Google".

    The Addon 404 Bookmarks is also really useful for finding dead Bookmarks

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    Kagi is quite possibly the least privacy friendly search engine out there. I swear there's astroturfing going on here, I don't know why anyone would pay for this, they're just falling for marketing.

    Not to mention it just won't work in private browsing and all your queries are tied to a specific account which also has your personal information from your payments.

    DuckDuckGo does not censor, that is misinformation and FUD. It's probably the best search engine currently for most things.

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    [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    4get.ca, it's a metasearch engine, you get results from various search engines anonymously.

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