Summary

Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth denied allegations that he texted classified war plans to a Signal group chat that mistakenly included The Atlantic’s Jeffrey Goldberg.

The National Security Council confirmed the chat’s authenticity but called the inclusion of Goldberg an inadvertent mistake.

Lawmakers from both parties demanded investigations, with former CIA Director Leon Panetta warning of potential espionage violations.

Hegseth dismissed Goldberg as a "deceitful" journalist. Trump denied knowledge of the incident.

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[–] 250 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Ah yes - the classic Trump approach.... just yell Fake News as loud as possible.

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  • [–] 46 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I'm seriously hopeful that the people who have historically given into this lie are wising up.

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    [–] 150 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    He knows they have the screenshots and the NSC confirmed it, right?

    https://x.com/JenGriffinFNC/status/1904221405618577650

    NSC statement:  "At this time, the message thread that was reported appears to be authentic, and we are reviewing how an inadvertent number was added to the chain. The thread is a demonstration of the deep and thoughtful policy coordination between senior officials. The ongoing success of the Houthi operation demonstrates that there were no threats to our servicemembers or our  national security." - NSC Spokesman Brian Hughes

    The Trump administration does not deny this Signal group chat about the war planning for the Yemen strikes is real. Trump’s top national security advisers added reporter

    @JeffreyGoldberg

    @TheAtlantic

    to the war planning text chain on non-government social media app, perhaps breaking secrecy laws. Read this shocking story below.

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    [+] 114 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)
  • [–] 96 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    You dumb fuck, there are screenshots of all of it, plus your own people admitted it

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    [–] 92 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    pete hegseth was a DUI hire.

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    [+] 91 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)
  • [–] 44 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    To be clear, Hegseth (the guy with a history of getting blackout drunk) isn't the same as Michael Waltz, the guy who invited Goldberg to the chat.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2025/03/trump-administration-accidentally-texted-me-its-war-plans/682151/

    https://www.theatlantic.com/podcasts/archive/2025/03/jeffrey-goldberg-group-chat-broke-internet/682161/

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Waltz

    Waltz, unlike Hegseth, is not a random idiot, he definitely knows better.

    "Waltz received four Bronze Stars while serving in the Special Forces during multiple combat tours in Afghanistan, the Middle East, and Africa. He served in the Bush administration as a defense policy director in the Pentagon and as counterterrorism advisor to Vice President Dick Cheney."

    As far as Hegseth (or any of the rest of them for that matter) was concerned, the list was all vetted and pre-approved people.

    The fact that NONE of them actually vetted the list before saying anything speaks volumes.

    They went down the line asking "Hey, who else in your department needs to be a contact on this?" and they all sounded off one by one, except Goldberg.

    Nobody thought to ask "Hey, J.G., we haven't heard from you yet. In fact, wait, who is J.G.?"

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    [–] 81 points 1 year ago

    The fucking White House confirmed this shit.

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  • [–] 75 points 1 year ago

    Working the playbook. Step 1: Deny

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  • [–] 74 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Lmfao

    The editor in chief of The Atlantic wrote an op-ed on the whole episode, and they have corroborated and confirmed from multiple sources that he was, indeed, inadvertently shown data that is considered SCI in a Signal group chat that was likely conducted through the personal devices of administration officials.

    There is no debate here. That happened. This is like rear ending someone in your car and totaling both vehicles and just refusing to even acknowledge that you even felt anything.

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    [–] 66 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Even if everyone in the chat had a need-to-know, you do not use insecure 3rd-party software for classified communications. Secure networks already exist for this.

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    [–] 63 points 1 year ago (4 children)
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    [–] 55 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    These fucking guys only ever lie and deny.

    Are we really too stupid and weak as a country to be able to do anything about this?

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    [–] 48 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    downs entire glass of whiskey "wasn't me"

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    [–] 43 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Don't forget Tuli was on the chat too, I sure do feel safe with our inept leaders.

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  • [–] 41 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Sooo Pete didn’t do it, but trump also says that Pete learned his lesson?

    US is a joke. A very dangerous joke.

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  • [–] 38 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    You're right Pete. It wasn't texting.

    It was RCS through an untraceable encrypted messaging app named Signal

    Which is WORSE since records are destroyed

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    [–] 38 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Ah, going with denial in the face of concrete evidence to the contrary

    Classic Trump move

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    [–] 37 points 1 year ago (11 children)

    Why is nobody talking about the fact that we are bombing Yemen? Yes, including a random person in a text channel talking classified information is a problem. But, why are we just brushing off the actual chat contents?

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    There's a couple reasons -

    1. It wasn't so much "bombing Yemen" as it was, bombing a terrorist organization within Yemen's borders. This is something every American administration has done for decades. That makes it poor political fodder, you can't "one up" the competition with it.
    2. Most Americans would agree that the Houthis, once it is explained to them who they are, need to be bombed. The actual action would be reprehensible to some, but acceptable to most. You can't put pressure on an admin to change their tactics when they feel they have a plurality of support.
    3. The sad and undeniable fact is that in American politics - American lives are simply more important than foreign ones. That's not really unique to American culture, it's not meant as a criticism, it's just a sad reality. Bombing Yemen is pretty low risk for American lives - but sloppy OPSEC put American lives at huge risk so that's where the focus is.

    In a perfect world, the fact that America is committing violence in other nations and is not realistically reigned in by International Laws or Treaties would be a point worth getting upset about. But that fact is over 100 years old and has been successfully normalized. The idea of incompetent buffoons operating the Department of Defense like a bunch of frat boys trying to organize a kegger is marginally newer and more impactful on the national psyche.

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    [–] 37 points 1 year ago

    "You're talking about a deceitful and highly discredited so-called journalist who's made a profession of peddling hoaxes time and time again...This is a guy who peddles in garbage.

    Hegseth then added, "oh wait, that's me."

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  • [–] 35 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Disgusting comments about Europe in the group chat. The USA is a pariah state; the sooner we disentangle from it, the better.

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    [–] 34 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    He's going with the Shaggy defense? "It wasn't me". I mean, it works for them. It will probably all blow over because no one is going to do anything. But this should absolutely destroy him.

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    [–] 27 points 1 year ago

    Jesus, these people are so fucking predictable.

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  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago

    House Speaker Mike Johnson to reporters on Monday after news of the messages spread: "I just was with the president in the Oval Office just now. The administration is addressing what happened. Apparently, an inadvertent phone number made it onto that thread. They are going to track that down and make sure it doesn't happen again."

    Sounds great, how about we start by following fucking protocol? And not using a chat app on a damn mobile phone to have discussions on this scale?? Huh???

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Fuck you Pete 'DUI Hire' Hegseth.

    You used a non-approved communication application and caused a massive data leak with you and your incompetent morons in office using OpSec that my junior engineers know better and if any one else did what you did, that's be fired and be facing charges.

    Fucking pathetic children who can't take any accountability.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago

    Having complete morons in charge does confer particular tactical advantages.

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    [–] 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Prove that the sender of that message doesn't match the cryptographic fingerprint of Hegseth. If he didn't send it, then it wont match.

    Signal allows you to verify all your contacts in the group chat.

    This is so easy to solve. Jfc

    https://support.signal.org/hc/en-us/articles/360007060632-What-is-a-safety-number-and-why-do-I-see-that-it-changed

    The journalist just has to show the safety number of the person who sent it, and hegseth has to verify it with his device. They're obviously already in each others contacts, or at least are aware of each other's presence in the group chat. Its pretty hard to ignore some random journalist entering the chat since it alerts the entire group.

    What makes signal great is, yes, privacy, but also the authentication of your contacts. You know you can't possibly be talking to someone else's device if you have verified their safety number.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    inadvertent mistake.

    Lets give the benefit of the doubt and say it was a mistake. Is that a matter and a position, where such a mistake is tolerable? Or is it something that disqualifies for any position in that domain and demands immediate resignation?

    Because if you seriously make a mistake, and you realize the gravity of it, you take responsibility for it. If you instead remain in position, you either don't recognize the gravity of it, which is an even bigger reason to resign, or you indeed acted with intent.

    But in this case it did not start with inviting Goldberg. It started with making a chat group on an unauthorized app, likely using unauthorized devices to discuss matters that are explicitly forbidden to be taken out of specific permitted official channels.

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    [–] 18 points 1 year ago

    "Wasn't me"

    — Pete Hegseth

    Ah yes, the classic Shaggy defense. What's that shit conservatives say? We're still in the first year.

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