Great but I already do as much as I personally can handle. Would be great if society at large, e.g. laws, regulations, and big corps, could get on the same level.

There’s a clear difference between being in big trouble and being completely screwed. If we can avoid the extinction of humanity and go with catastrophic disasters and famine that eradicates vast majority of the population, we should totally do it.

Ideally, we would avoid all that, and go back to the good old days. Every small step towards that goal is worth it, although taking longer steps is highly encouraged.

its to late, its over, to prevent catastrophe.

its not to late to ensure we have a minimal catastrophe instead of a maximal catastrophe.

Above a certain threshold there will be no discernible difference in the outcome to our civilisation.

The planet is fine. The people are fucked. G. Carlin was and is right.

It’s just a question of how bad we’ll have it at this point.

I feel like in a way, it is too late. The human race decided it doesn't care to fight climate change. There is going to be significant disruptions, especially near the equator. But on the other hand, even if we overshoot our climate targets, there is always a chance for us to reverse the damage dealt using technology and by reclamation of ecosystems that have been destroyed. I think as long as our species survives we can fix things. But we need a massive, massive change in attitude to muster the political will to do something.

Kind of feels like in 20-30 years time we'll be claiming its worth fighting for a climate that doesn't immediately kill us if we go outside for 20 minutes instead of 15.

Or to put it another way, do these scientists not see there's a difference between living and surviving?

The post is right, but only on the paper, and not really in a world that is progressively taken over by ecocidal autocrats whose program is to kill every bit of efforts in climate fight, so even the smallest progress we made will soon be distant memories and fighting will be increasingly dangerous and difficult and, ultimately, virtually impossible. And the locked-in catastrophes are now sufficient to collapse our already fragilized geopolitical context.

People saying it's "not too late" are systematically downplaying the current political context, wich make their message pretty unconsistent.

A bit sad how pessimistic everyone is. Renewables are currently becoming the most economic way to produce electricity and even states that do not care about the environment are investing in it. EVs are making progress as well. And while it is true that a lot of damage has already been done and we will face the consequences, I also feel that decarbonization is inevitable even from a economic perspective at this point. The speed at which this happens is variable though and determines how many people will die, this is why it is important to not be pessimistic and hopeless but to try steering things in the right direction.

I'm not sure this tweet counts as news?

We couldn't get people to wear a mask or get a shot when a disease was killing millions in the open.

We definitely can't get people to change their behavior over climate change.

Reminder that there's no "it's too late, its over" for climate change

That can be totally misread.

Ok, got it. No burning at the stake. We'll use guillotines.👍

I was going to present a partial rebuttal invoking politics but then I saw that this is !upliftingnews@lemmy.world.

Another positive is that we humans are highly adaptive. We’re already making a lot of changes towards renewables and improving the efficiency and reliability of our electric grids and other large infrastructure. Climate change definitely brings a ton of challenges with it (and some of the changes have already taken place) but I think it also gives us new opportunities such as longer growing seasons up North.

Where news

Seriously, if there's one thing I don't miss from reddit (I tell a lie, there's dozens of things I don't miss from Reddit) it's the "Actually we're too far gone, and everyone's going to die in seven days because none of you jokers will buy a Tesla!~" nonsense

Funfact: Conspiracy Bullshit in the other direction is still Conspiracy Bullshit

Hmm