My Journey (telegra.ph)
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but i use ddg btw

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[–] 132 points 2 years ago* (3 children)
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    Imagine graduating in medecine and your employer respects you to be an expert at everything all at once that is related to the human body and being able to perform open heart and brain surgery and doing x-ray imaging and MRIs and being a gynecologist and an an optometrist and a pharmacist all at once.

    That's what being in IT is like. You're expected to know how to program microcontrollers to mainframes to fucking VCRs and knowing every programming language ever created since electronic computers exist as well as networking and cloud technology and databases, etc. AND you have to be certified in all these things to prove you know them on top of your degree.

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  • [–] 80 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (15 children)

    And vaginas, and MRI machines, and hearts change dramatically every couple of years. Plus the human body grows new organs and limbs every few months and you're expected to immediately have 5 years experience with these new organs and limbs that have only existed for 2 months. Perfectly healthy suddenly people fall unconscious for no reason, despite all of their organs operating perfectly. When you check your human body documentation you discover that the lungs no longer work as of today, and you now need to use the sclurtleplussy instead. You have no idea what a sclurtleplussy, but you better figure it out immediately, or all these patients will die.

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  • [–] 29 points 2 years ago* (3 children)

    You're expected to know how to program microcontrollers to mainframes to fucking VCRs and knowing every programming language ever created since electronic computers exist as well as networking and cloud technology and databases, etc. AND you have to be certified in all these things to prove you know them on top of your degree.

    So there's a problem even worse than this: When you have all those skills and more (I do 👍) employers expect to pay you the salary of someone who knows just one of those things.

    Like, I was a professional hacker, a systems administrator (both Unix/Linux and Windows), I know networking, have administered/maintained databases, I'm also an award-winning web developer (I know the usual web stuff plus Python, Rust, and a few other things), an embedded developer (C, C++, and Rust), and I can even engineer, design, and program an entire product from scratch that didn't exist before (see: https://youtu.be/iv6Rh8UNWlI?si=dG15yQlQpfNGCDal ). That includes designing/engineering the circuit board.

    Do I get paid for knowing all these things? No. If I apply for any job you know what employers say when they reject me?

    Overqualified

    You're damned if you do and you're damned if you don't!

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    You dumb down your resume. Leave a bunch of that shit off. Only put what applies for the job you are looking for.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago

    Sick keyboard!!!

    At the point you're at with all your skills, have you thought of starting your own company? No employer will know how to use your talents as well as you do.

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  • [–] 88 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    The number of people who simply don’t know how to effectively use a web search is absurd. If you can sit down to a search engine and find what you’re looking for within 5 minutes or less, you’re probably the go-to troubleshooting person for your family. The general population is almost dangerously tech-illiterate.

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  • [–] 76 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    There are actually only 12 people in the world who know how to code. The rest of us copy some variation of their code or their derived code.

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  • [–] 37 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    Not much different to a doctor reading through clinical trials and then recommending the best treatment based on the use case. They didn't design, develop or manufacture the treatment. They were not involved in the trials. The majority are just expected to know enough to make an educated decision based on specific, individual circumstances.

    I want my doctors to use tried and tested treatments. Not reinvent the wheel. A good doctor is one who has a high success rate.

    Yet the industry acts as though you're not a good dev if you can't reinvented the wheel from scratch... coz... Ignorance? Ego? Delusions of grandeur?

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    [–] 29 points 2 years ago

    Doctors do that, too.

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  • [–] 20 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Somebody told me a story once about how they went to a doctor in Sweden. They told him their symptoms and the dude started googling them.

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  • [–] 39 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    My doc is also googling stuff very often.

    Probably not bad. If I could have memorized the entire dotnet framework documentation, I would. Until then I will keep googling, and I will usually recognize if the solution is sound. Probably the same with doctors and health.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago

    Agreed, I’m simply pointing out that the comic makes it seem like programming is something you can always just Google the answers for, instead of a skill that requires honing and a basal foundation, similar to medical science or law.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago

    Lol, this also my journey. Decades in the workforce, zero formal training.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Give kagi a try, if you haven't yet.

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    [–] 6 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I know this is just a meme but school is an excellent way to have a foundational understanding of how things work, and learning to problem solve including googling.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    a foundational understanding of how things work

    Yeah! Kids these days are learning (in school) all about containers, service discovery, AWS, production deployment strategies, password vaulting solutions, cryptographic key/password management, and most importantly: politically defensive email practices.

    Oh wait: No they aren't, LOL.

    I just interviewed dozens of fresh (CS) college grads a few months ago and only one of them even knew what SSH was let alone anything remotely resembling basic command line stuff, Linux skills, or any of the above mentioned things.

    They sure could write a mean linked list though! 😁

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago

    This is why more places need to split software engineering into it's own thing, apart from cs.

    Never had an intern worry about sorting algorithms, but if I could get one who knew how to use git and write tests, we're off to the races.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago

    stackoverflow.com helped me retire

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