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[–] -3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

No one but complete morons are asking to specifically make a product by emitting carbon dioxide

Agreed

Emissions are an avoidable by-product no one asked for.

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How is this not a contradiction?

No company is emitting co2 for “the global citizens”. They make products to earn money.

How do you expect them to earn money without selling to global citizens?

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Saying that our only options are to produce stuff or not produce CO2 at a gargantuan scale is a false dichotomy. CO2 production at the scale that it is now is the result of the production processes that result in that CO2 being cheaper than the ones that on the whole, do not. We are flushing this planet down the drain not because we cant do otherwise but because its cheaper right now to do what were doing instead.

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  • [–] -2 points 2 years ago

    Saying that our only options are to produce stuff or not produce CO2 at a gargantuan scale is a false dichotomy.

    Completely false conclusion to my questions. I'm saying companies make stuff because they want to make money. They can make money because people buy it. So, if people didn't buy stuff, companies couldn't sell stuff, and they couldn't make money.

    We live in society of waste and overconsumption. The EU throws away more food than it imports, but if you think that's wasteful, the average USAian consumes double to triple the amount of energy a European does and even more food.

    Yes, companies don't make a big effort to reduce wasteful production processes, don't voluntarily make an effort to reduce emissions, and lobby as hard as they can to continue doing so because it's cheaper. However, we the consumers, the "global citizens" - and let's actually be clear, it's the global north - consume more than we should, waste more than we should, and lot of it happens by ignoring the destruction wrought by the companies we buy from.

    We are all the fucking problem. We work at these companies that pollute. We buy from these companies that pollute - and not even the least amount possible; we lavishly indulge. We vote for politicians that choose to turn a blind eye. We generate billions of tons of waste and happily do more.

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