โฒ 246 โผ What happened to the main Piracy community (lemmy.world) submitted 3 years ago by techgearwhips@lemmy.world to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml 159 comments fedilink hide all child comments It's gone. Wanted to ask over here before I went to check on Reddit.
[โ] Madbrad200@sh.itjust.works 98 points 3 years ago* (6 children) Official statement permalink fedilink source hideshow 12 child comments replies: [โ] techgearwhips@lemmy.world [S] 119 points 3 years ago* Making official statements on Discord, and not Lemmy is WILD permalink fedilink source parent [โ] nyoooom@lemmy.world 21 points 3 years ago (1 child) Yeah, it sucks but it makes sense, there is no one to defend those volunteer individuals if anyone wants to go after them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] asuka@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] sure@lemmy.ml 23 points 3 years ago (1 child) The problem is that the admins are all just volunteers and the instance doesn't exist to make money. If a big company decides to sue them, even if they are in the right, they will be drowned in legal fees. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] PoetSII@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago Not to mention, legality doesn't need to be a question if the admins of Lemmy.world get drowned in legal fees before even having to appear in a court. The rich don't exist by our laws and idk why anybody expects differently at this point. permalink fedilink source parent [โ] CrypticFawn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 3 years ago Welp, hopefully more people simply move instances. permalink fedilink source parent [+] asuka@sh.itjust.works 18 points 3 years ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] superkret@feddit.de 14 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [โ] TalkingCat@lemm.ee 10 points 3 years ago There is no content in these communities, they are for discussion. Linking to content is against the rules in fact. permalink fedilink source parent [โ] asuka@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) Are you sure that's true? All content from all other federated servers are hosted on all other servers? That certainly doesn't sound right; I thought that the fediverse protocol just allowed us access to other servers running the protocol, not that our instance actually runs content from their instance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] Jonjanjer@feddit.de 3 points 3 years ago* Yes, this is how federation works and it's the main point all those users that are bitching about the move do not understand. LW does not care about piracy, they are afraid of legal consequences, because with the federation protocol you are hosting all content of other instances. It's not embedded, it's mirrored, so there is no legal difference between the origin instance and the federated instance. permalink fedilink source parent [โ] Mark_is_on_his_droid@lemmy.world 13 points 3 years ago Comcast has money to defend itself. That's a huge difference. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Bungiefan_ak@sh.itjust.works -42 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Fjaeger@sopuli.xyz 1 point 3 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [โ] fastfinge@rblind.com 8 points 3 years ago (2 children) Can someone transcribe this for those of us using screen readers? As a server in Canada, We're also worried about the hosting risk of the piracy community and considering blocking it. I'd love to read the LW statement. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [โ] Madbrad200@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 years ago (1 child) They made a announcement here on Lemmy https://lemmy.world/post/3234363 The original was posted on discord. It was: Removal of Piracy Communities Earlier today, after review, we blocked and removed several communities that were providing assistance to access copyrighted/pirated material, which is currently not allowed per Rule #1 of our Code of Conduct. The communities that were removed due to this decision were: !piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com, !piracy@lemmy.ml, !steamdeckpirates@lemmy.dbzer0.com. We took this action to protect lemmy.world, lemmy.world's users, and lemmy.world staff as the material posted in those communities could be problematic for us, because of potential legal issues around copyrighted material and services that provide access to or assitance in obtaining it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] fastfinge@rblind.com 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) Thanks! Perfect. Wish I could award...Lemmy Gold? LOL permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] can@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 years ago Lemmy Lemon ๐ permalink fedilink source parent [โ] hsl@wayfarershaven.eu 5 points 3 years ago (1 child) Here's the original announcement in text: https://lemmy.world/post/3234363 Thanks for the reminder that screenshots aren't accessible for everyone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] fastfinge@rblind.com 2 points 3 years ago Thanks! I didn't realize there was an announcement on Lemmy, or I would have searched. Unfortunately screenshots are kind of the only way to share posts on Discord, because you can't link someone to a Discord message on a server they're not a member of, so I can't blame you for a screenshot there. However, it is possible to add alt-text on images you post to Lemmy. :-) permalink fedilink source parent [+] Bungiefan_ak@lemm.ee -34 points 3 years ago (1 child) Glad to see Lemmy.world doing their part to keep the Fediverse safe and legal for all users here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] Zeroxxx@lemmy.my.id 5 points 3 years ago The contents are still hosted by respective instances. World achieves nothing, they dont even host the contents. This is pure power trip or irrational fear, or both. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] techgearwhips@lemmy.world [S] 119 points 3 years ago* Making official statements on Discord, and not Lemmy is WILD permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] nyoooom@lemmy.world 21 points 3 years ago (1 child) Yeah, it sucks but it makes sense, there is no one to defend those volunteer individuals if anyone wants to go after them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] asuka@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] sure@lemmy.ml 23 points 3 years ago (1 child) The problem is that the admins are all just volunteers and the instance doesn't exist to make money. If a big company decides to sue them, even if they are in the right, they will be drowned in legal fees. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] PoetSII@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago Not to mention, legality doesn't need to be a question if the admins of Lemmy.world get drowned in legal fees before even having to appear in a court. The rich don't exist by our laws and idk why anybody expects differently at this point. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] asuka@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] sure@lemmy.ml 23 points 3 years ago (1 child) The problem is that the admins are all just volunteers and the instance doesn't exist to make money. If a big company decides to sue them, even if they are in the right, they will be drowned in legal fees. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] PoetSII@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago Not to mention, legality doesn't need to be a question if the admins of Lemmy.world get drowned in legal fees before even having to appear in a court. The rich don't exist by our laws and idk why anybody expects differently at this point. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] sure@lemmy.ml 23 points 3 years ago (1 child) The problem is that the admins are all just volunteers and the instance doesn't exist to make money. If a big company decides to sue them, even if they are in the right, they will be drowned in legal fees. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] PoetSII@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago Not to mention, legality doesn't need to be a question if the admins of Lemmy.world get drowned in legal fees before even having to appear in a court. The rich don't exist by our laws and idk why anybody expects differently at this point. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] PoetSII@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago Not to mention, legality doesn't need to be a question if the admins of Lemmy.world get drowned in legal fees before even having to appear in a court. The rich don't exist by our laws and idk why anybody expects differently at this point. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] CrypticFawn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 3 years ago Welp, hopefully more people simply move instances. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] asuka@sh.itjust.works 18 points 3 years ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] superkret@feddit.de 14 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [โ] TalkingCat@lemm.ee 10 points 3 years ago There is no content in these communities, they are for discussion. Linking to content is against the rules in fact. permalink fedilink source parent [โ] asuka@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) Are you sure that's true? All content from all other federated servers are hosted on all other servers? That certainly doesn't sound right; I thought that the fediverse protocol just allowed us access to other servers running the protocol, not that our instance actually runs content from their instance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] Jonjanjer@feddit.de 3 points 3 years ago* Yes, this is how federation works and it's the main point all those users that are bitching about the move do not understand. LW does not care about piracy, they are afraid of legal consequences, because with the federation protocol you are hosting all content of other instances. It's not embedded, it's mirrored, so there is no legal difference between the origin instance and the federated instance. permalink fedilink source parent [โ] Mark_is_on_his_droid@lemmy.world 13 points 3 years ago Comcast has money to defend itself. That's a huge difference. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Bungiefan_ak@sh.itjust.works -42 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Fjaeger@sopuli.xyz 1 point 3 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] superkret@feddit.de 14 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [โ] TalkingCat@lemm.ee 10 points 3 years ago There is no content in these communities, they are for discussion. Linking to content is against the rules in fact. permalink fedilink source parent [โ] asuka@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) Are you sure that's true? All content from all other federated servers are hosted on all other servers? That certainly doesn't sound right; I thought that the fediverse protocol just allowed us access to other servers running the protocol, not that our instance actually runs content from their instance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] Jonjanjer@feddit.de 3 points 3 years ago* Yes, this is how federation works and it's the main point all those users that are bitching about the move do not understand. LW does not care about piracy, they are afraid of legal consequences, because with the federation protocol you are hosting all content of other instances. It's not embedded, it's mirrored, so there is no legal difference between the origin instance and the federated instance. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] TalkingCat@lemm.ee 10 points 3 years ago There is no content in these communities, they are for discussion. Linking to content is against the rules in fact. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] asuka@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) Are you sure that's true? All content from all other federated servers are hosted on all other servers? That certainly doesn't sound right; I thought that the fediverse protocol just allowed us access to other servers running the protocol, not that our instance actually runs content from their instance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] Jonjanjer@feddit.de 3 points 3 years ago* Yes, this is how federation works and it's the main point all those users that are bitching about the move do not understand. LW does not care about piracy, they are afraid of legal consequences, because with the federation protocol you are hosting all content of other instances. It's not embedded, it's mirrored, so there is no legal difference between the origin instance and the federated instance. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] Jonjanjer@feddit.de 3 points 3 years ago* Yes, this is how federation works and it's the main point all those users that are bitching about the move do not understand. LW does not care about piracy, they are afraid of legal consequences, because with the federation protocol you are hosting all content of other instances. It's not embedded, it's mirrored, so there is no legal difference between the origin instance and the federated instance. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] Mark_is_on_his_droid@lemmy.world 13 points 3 years ago Comcast has money to defend itself. That's a huge difference. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Bungiefan_ak@sh.itjust.works -42 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Fjaeger@sopuli.xyz 1 point 3 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] fastfinge@rblind.com 8 points 3 years ago (2 children) Can someone transcribe this for those of us using screen readers? As a server in Canada, We're also worried about the hosting risk of the piracy community and considering blocking it. I'd love to read the LW statement. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [โ] Madbrad200@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 years ago (1 child) They made a announcement here on Lemmy https://lemmy.world/post/3234363 The original was posted on discord. It was: Removal of Piracy Communities Earlier today, after review, we blocked and removed several communities that were providing assistance to access copyrighted/pirated material, which is currently not allowed per Rule #1 of our Code of Conduct. The communities that were removed due to this decision were: !piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com, !piracy@lemmy.ml, !steamdeckpirates@lemmy.dbzer0.com. We took this action to protect lemmy.world, lemmy.world's users, and lemmy.world staff as the material posted in those communities could be problematic for us, because of potential legal issues around copyrighted material and services that provide access to or assitance in obtaining it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] fastfinge@rblind.com 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) Thanks! Perfect. Wish I could award...Lemmy Gold? LOL permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] can@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 years ago Lemmy Lemon ๐ permalink fedilink source parent [โ] hsl@wayfarershaven.eu 5 points 3 years ago (1 child) Here's the original announcement in text: https://lemmy.world/post/3234363 Thanks for the reminder that screenshots aren't accessible for everyone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] fastfinge@rblind.com 2 points 3 years ago Thanks! I didn't realize there was an announcement on Lemmy, or I would have searched. Unfortunately screenshots are kind of the only way to share posts on Discord, because you can't link someone to a Discord message on a server they're not a member of, so I can't blame you for a screenshot there. However, it is possible to add alt-text on images you post to Lemmy. :-) permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] Madbrad200@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 years ago (1 child) They made a announcement here on Lemmy https://lemmy.world/post/3234363 The original was posted on discord. It was: Removal of Piracy Communities Earlier today, after review, we blocked and removed several communities that were providing assistance to access copyrighted/pirated material, which is currently not allowed per Rule #1 of our Code of Conduct. The communities that were removed due to this decision were: !piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com, !piracy@lemmy.ml, !steamdeckpirates@lemmy.dbzer0.com. We took this action to protect lemmy.world, lemmy.world's users, and lemmy.world staff as the material posted in those communities could be problematic for us, because of potential legal issues around copyrighted material and services that provide access to or assitance in obtaining it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] fastfinge@rblind.com 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) Thanks! Perfect. Wish I could award...Lemmy Gold? LOL permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] can@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 years ago Lemmy Lemon ๐ permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] fastfinge@rblind.com 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) Thanks! Perfect. Wish I could award...Lemmy Gold? LOL permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] can@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 years ago Lemmy Lemon ๐ permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] hsl@wayfarershaven.eu 5 points 3 years ago (1 child) Here's the original announcement in text: https://lemmy.world/post/3234363 Thanks for the reminder that screenshots aren't accessible for everyone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] fastfinge@rblind.com 2 points 3 years ago Thanks! I didn't realize there was an announcement on Lemmy, or I would have searched. Unfortunately screenshots are kind of the only way to share posts on Discord, because you can't link someone to a Discord message on a server they're not a member of, so I can't blame you for a screenshot there. However, it is possible to add alt-text on images you post to Lemmy. :-) permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] fastfinge@rblind.com 2 points 3 years ago Thanks! I didn't realize there was an announcement on Lemmy, or I would have searched. Unfortunately screenshots are kind of the only way to share posts on Discord, because you can't link someone to a Discord message on a server they're not a member of, so I can't blame you for a screenshot there. However, it is possible to add alt-text on images you post to Lemmy. :-) permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Bungiefan_ak@lemm.ee -34 points 3 years ago (1 child) Glad to see Lemmy.world doing their part to keep the Fediverse safe and legal for all users here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] Zeroxxx@lemmy.my.id 5 points 3 years ago The contents are still hosted by respective instances. World achieves nothing, they dont even host the contents. This is pure power trip or irrational fear, or both. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] Zeroxxx@lemmy.my.id 5 points 3 years ago The contents are still hosted by respective instances. World achieves nothing, they dont even host the contents. This is pure power trip or irrational fear, or both. permalink fedilink source parent
