It's gone. Wanted to ask over here before I went to check on Reddit.

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[–] 109 points 3 years ago (10 children)

lemmy.world deleted their copy of it (due to site rules, and prompted by a concerned Internet citizen)

It's probably the biggest Community in all of Lemmy, so the ramifications will be interesting.

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  • [–] 68 points 3 years ago (17 children)

    lemmy.world has been acting very weird lately. Almost like they are the one and the only authority of Lemmy.

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  • [–] 31 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    That "concerned internet citizen" was a 10 hour old account whose only post was complaining about piracy. It was a troll out for some good ol manipulation.

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  • [–] 18 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (2 children)

    oh well better late than never to migrate i spose

    EDIT: nvm looks like dbzer0 has like 0 moderation (users just uploading gore to random subs and other shit) so can't blame lemmy world admin from having to defed. Shame.

    EDIT EDIT: oh its just anti piracy, i thought it was a defed !

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    [–] 81 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    Lots of folks here with strong opinions that have never dealt with legal proceedings, or an itemized bill calculated in 6-minute increments.

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    [–] 68 points 3 years ago (4 children)

    They did what? How are they suppose to tell me which communities I can check and which I am not allowed to see?

    Time to move to a new instance, good riddance

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    [–] 63 points 3 years ago (17 children)

    Huh? The Piracy community on dbzer0 is still up, just checked.

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    [–] 44 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (7 children)

    [This comment has been deleted by an automated system]

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    [–] 41 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    Not sure why nobody in the comments is distinguishing between blocking a community on an instance (removing /c/piracy) and defederating instances (saying your users can’t subscribe to otherinstance.com/c/piracy). They are very different things. We should be very skeptical of defederation.

    Removing a community because it violates the rules of your instance is A-OK and every instance should do this. Anybody can run an instance, and anybody can set their own rules, that’s the whole idea of federation.

    De-federating other instances because you find their content objectionable is less ok. Lemmy is like e-mail. Everybody registers at gmail or office365 or myfavoriteemail.com. Every email host runs their own servers, but they all talk to each other through an open protocol. You would be pissed to find out that gmail just suddenly decided to stop accepting mail from someothermailprovider.com because a bunch of their users are pirates or tankies. Or blocked your favourite email newsletter from reaching your inbox because it had inflammatory political content.

    Allowing your users to receive e-mail, or content from subcommunities on other lemmy instances is not a legal risk like hosting the content yourself is (IANAL etc). Same way Gmail is not liable if somebody on some other e-mail server does something illegal by emailing a gmail user. That’s why you can register at torrentwebsite.com and get a user confirmation email successfully delivered to your inbox. Gmail is federated with all other e-mail services without needing to endorse them or accept legal liability for them.

    Lemmy’s strength, value, and future comes from being the largest federated space for link-sharing and other forms of communication.

    Defederation is bad.

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    [–] 35 points 3 years ago (27 children)

    LW turned into a shit show pretty fast...

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    [–] 23 points 3 years ago

    lemmy.world blocked it. I guess it is their right to do so, if you want to keep access to it move to another instance (it is not healthy that so many people are on LW).

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  • [–] 22 points 3 years ago

    Great, time to change instance. At least it will have > 10% uptime

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    [–] 20 points 3 years ago

    If anyone's looking for a new instance, feel free to join mine! https://lemmings.world

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  • [–] 16 points 3 years ago

    Its not gone. Its just blocked by lemmy.world...

    Its hosted on dbzer0

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