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[–] 107 points 2 years ago* (5 children)

This would actually be a big step for many Android users wanting to try out another OS.

I know for myself that sideloading apps is a must for me on my phone, and if an iPhone could do that, it's at least one step closer for consideration.

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  • [–] 37 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

    on Apple you are forced to use an Apple ID

    Not entirely true. For most functionality on Android, you also need to be signed in with Google, but you can de-google it. On Apple, it's the same, but you can't de-apple it. You can currently only use the App Store which needs an Apple ID, so you can use without an Apple ID but you lose like 80% of the stuff you could use your phone for.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

    For most functionality on Android, you also need to be signed in with Google

    Really? Funny, my Lineage devices have zero Google Crap and they work just fine. Phone, email, SMS, messengers (Telegram, XMPP, Wire, SimpleX, Signal), web works fine, I'm able to run my sync tools like Foldersync, Syncthing, Resilio, my calendar works, my shopping list app works and syncs to their servers just fine, I use 4 mapping apps two are offroad/hiking, same ones I used when it had google) my address book works, etc.

    I have ~300 apps on my phone.

    So what's this "most functionality" thing that I apparently don't know about?

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    That's de-googling (which I specifically mentioned in my previous comment). I'm talking about the stock experience most people will have on Android. For that, you need a Google account.

    An user not familiar with Android will just use the Play Store, and they'll need to log in with Google.

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  • [–] -4 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Not really, you can just remove your Google Account after setting it up and things will stay working without issue.

    You only really need a Google account to download apps from the Play store. But you can use sideloading and different stores for that.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago

    But you can use sideloading and different stores for that.

    That's (part of) what I said. You can also remove your Apple ID after you downloaded some apps, but that doesn't change the fact that you need one to do so.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    This would actually be a big step for many Android users wanting to try out another OS.

    That's the biggest benefit, competition ripples back and forth across services and improves everything. One thing gets better, so other things have to get better, so everything gets better.

    Knock-on effects are insanely good.

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  • [+] -80 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)
  • [–] 42 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Apple will find a way to appease the dumbasses in Europe

    I imagine Tim Apple's bottom is shinier than Bender's from all that kissing. One often wonders why people keep drinking the Kool-Aid from such behemoths. Must be something in the water.

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  • [–] 23 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    but there’s nothing in the law that states they have to let you sideload whatever you choose

    That's pretty much exactly what the law does say.

    The gatekeeper shall allow and technically enable the installation and effective use of third-party software applications or software application stores using, or interoperating with, its operating system and allow those software applications or software application stores to be accessed by means other than the relevant core platform services of that gatekeeper.

    There's a provision for not letting the user actively break the device, but that's it. And it's couched in terms like "if strictly necessary and proportionate" and "provided they are justified", so it's not something Apple can apply on a whim.

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  • [+] -25 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)
  • [–] 14 points 2 years ago

    It doesn’t say anything about specific software. They have to allow you to use third party stores, they don’t have to allow you to download torrent apps so that you can pirate.

    Literally in the quote I posted...

    The gatekeeper shall allow and technically enable the installation and effective use of third-party software applications or software application stores

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  • [–] 22 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Please step on me harder Mr.Apple!

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  • [+] -35 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)
  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    You’re the one championing for it champ.

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  • [–] 16 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    And I’m just telling it like it is too.

    If you don’t like it stop whinging to me.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago

    there’s nothing in the law that states they have to let you sideload whatever you choose.

    There is, actually. And there is much more, you also will be able to publish on the App Store without using Apple's payment services for example.

    EU lawmakers are slow, but not completely stupid.

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