▲ 464 ▼ App Store to Be 'Split in Two' Ahead of EU iPhone Sideloading Deadline (www.macrumors.com) submitted 2 years ago by neme@lemm.ee to c/technology@lemmy.world 133 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] MagneticFusion@lemm.ee 90 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Octopus1348@lemy.lol 37 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) on Apple you are forced to use an Apple ID Not entirely true. For most functionality on Android, you also need to be signed in with Google, but you can de-google it. On Apple, it's the same, but you can't de-apple it. You can currently only use the App Store which needs an Apple ID, so you can use without an Apple ID but you lose like 80% of the stuff you could use your phone for. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] MagneticFusion@lemm.ee 20 points 2 years ago* (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago You can sync photos with tools like Syncthing, but it's not automatic because of how iOS stores photos. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Octopus1348@lemy.lol 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Wait so you don't need an Apple ID for the App Store? Or did I interpret your comment wrong. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] MagneticFusion@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children) For most functionality on Android, you also need to be signed in with Google Really? Funny, my Lineage devices have zero Google Crap and they work just fine. Phone, email, SMS, messengers (Telegram, XMPP, Wire, SimpleX, Signal), web works fine, I'm able to run my sync tools like Foldersync, Syncthing, Resilio, my calendar works, my shopping list app works and syncs to their servers just fine, I use 4 mapping apps two are offroad/hiking, same ones I used when it had google) my address book works, etc. I have ~300 apps on my phone. So what's this "most functionality" thing that I apparently don't know about? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Octopus1348@lemy.lol 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) That's de-googling (which I specifically mentioned in my previous comment). I'm talking about the stock experience most people will have on Android. For that, you need a Google account. An user not familiar with Android will just use the Play Store, and they'll need to log in with Google. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Not really, you can just remove your Google Account after setting it up and things will stay working without issue. You only really need a Google account to download apps from the Play store. But you can use sideloading and different stores for that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Octopus1348@lemy.lol 4 points 2 years ago But you can use sideloading and different stores for that. That's (part of) what I said. You can also remove your Apple ID after you downloaded some apps, but that doesn't change the fact that you need one to do so. permalink fedilink source parent [+] MagneticFusion@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago* [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] MagneticFusion@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Octopus1348@lemy.lol 37 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) on Apple you are forced to use an Apple ID Not entirely true. For most functionality on Android, you also need to be signed in with Google, but you can de-google it. On Apple, it's the same, but you can't de-apple it. You can currently only use the App Store which needs an Apple ID, so you can use without an Apple ID but you lose like 80% of the stuff you could use your phone for. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] MagneticFusion@lemm.ee 20 points 2 years ago* (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago You can sync photos with tools like Syncthing, but it's not automatic because of how iOS stores photos. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Octopus1348@lemy.lol 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Wait so you don't need an Apple ID for the App Store? Or did I interpret your comment wrong. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] MagneticFusion@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children) For most functionality on Android, you also need to be signed in with Google Really? Funny, my Lineage devices have zero Google Crap and they work just fine. Phone, email, SMS, messengers (Telegram, XMPP, Wire, SimpleX, Signal), web works fine, I'm able to run my sync tools like Foldersync, Syncthing, Resilio, my calendar works, my shopping list app works and syncs to their servers just fine, I use 4 mapping apps two are offroad/hiking, same ones I used when it had google) my address book works, etc. I have ~300 apps on my phone. So what's this "most functionality" thing that I apparently don't know about? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Octopus1348@lemy.lol 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) That's de-googling (which I specifically mentioned in my previous comment). I'm talking about the stock experience most people will have on Android. For that, you need a Google account. An user not familiar with Android will just use the Play Store, and they'll need to log in with Google. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Not really, you can just remove your Google Account after setting it up and things will stay working without issue. You only really need a Google account to download apps from the Play store. But you can use sideloading and different stores for that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Octopus1348@lemy.lol 4 points 2 years ago But you can use sideloading and different stores for that. That's (part of) what I said. You can also remove your Apple ID after you downloaded some apps, but that doesn't change the fact that you need one to do so. permalink fedilink source parent [+] MagneticFusion@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago* [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] MagneticFusion@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] MagneticFusion@lemm.ee 20 points 2 years ago* (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago You can sync photos with tools like Syncthing, but it's not automatic because of how iOS stores photos. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Octopus1348@lemy.lol 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Wait so you don't need an Apple ID for the App Store? Or did I interpret your comment wrong. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] MagneticFusion@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago You can sync photos with tools like Syncthing, but it's not automatic because of how iOS stores photos. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Octopus1348@lemy.lol 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Wait so you don't need an Apple ID for the App Store? Or did I interpret your comment wrong. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] MagneticFusion@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children) For most functionality on Android, you also need to be signed in with Google Really? Funny, my Lineage devices have zero Google Crap and they work just fine. Phone, email, SMS, messengers (Telegram, XMPP, Wire, SimpleX, Signal), web works fine, I'm able to run my sync tools like Foldersync, Syncthing, Resilio, my calendar works, my shopping list app works and syncs to their servers just fine, I use 4 mapping apps two are offroad/hiking, same ones I used when it had google) my address book works, etc. I have ~300 apps on my phone. So what's this "most functionality" thing that I apparently don't know about? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Octopus1348@lemy.lol 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) That's de-googling (which I specifically mentioned in my previous comment). I'm talking about the stock experience most people will have on Android. For that, you need a Google account. An user not familiar with Android will just use the Play Store, and they'll need to log in with Google. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Not really, you can just remove your Google Account after setting it up and things will stay working without issue. You only really need a Google account to download apps from the Play store. But you can use sideloading and different stores for that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Octopus1348@lemy.lol 4 points 2 years ago But you can use sideloading and different stores for that. That's (part of) what I said. You can also remove your Apple ID after you downloaded some apps, but that doesn't change the fact that you need one to do so. permalink fedilink source parent [+] MagneticFusion@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago* [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] MagneticFusion@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Octopus1348@lemy.lol 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) That's de-googling (which I specifically mentioned in my previous comment). I'm talking about the stock experience most people will have on Android. For that, you need a Google account. An user not familiar with Android will just use the Play Store, and they'll need to log in with Google. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Not really, you can just remove your Google Account after setting it up and things will stay working without issue. You only really need a Google account to download apps from the Play store. But you can use sideloading and different stores for that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Octopus1348@lemy.lol 4 points 2 years ago But you can use sideloading and different stores for that. That's (part of) what I said. You can also remove your Apple ID after you downloaded some apps, but that doesn't change the fact that you need one to do so. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Not really, you can just remove your Google Account after setting it up and things will stay working without issue. You only really need a Google account to download apps from the Play store. But you can use sideloading and different stores for that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Octopus1348@lemy.lol 4 points 2 years ago But you can use sideloading and different stores for that. That's (part of) what I said. You can also remove your Apple ID after you downloaded some apps, but that doesn't change the fact that you need one to do so. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Octopus1348@lemy.lol 4 points 2 years ago But you can use sideloading and different stores for that. That's (part of) what I said. You can also remove your Apple ID after you downloaded some apps, but that doesn't change the fact that you need one to do so. permalink fedilink source parent