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[+] Cyberflunk@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] UmeU@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (4 children) What’s wrong with star field, I’m about 200 hours in and still am enjoying it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] echodot@feddit.uk 18 points 2 years ago (2 children) It's not garbage it's just classic Bethesda, by which I mean current classic Bethesda, as opposed to classic classic Bethesda. Have you noticed how pretty much every mission is, fast travel to place x, kill a bunch of grunts, loot the body of the main guy, fast travel back to quest giver, get money. The story is fine but the gameplay loop is just dull. I want to fly my ship around and I want a moon buggy (What's the point of entire procedurally generated planets if you can't look at them, I know they're boring but still). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] delitomatoes@lemm.ee 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) I just played Morrowind for the first time. If you talk to someone not facing you, they will not rotate to look at you. This feature is still in Starfield permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] echodot@feddit.uk 8 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Turning characters to look at you requires game boy level technology, I don't think Bethesda developers ready for that level just yet. They still haven't figured out how to store inventories in code. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LucasWaffyWaf@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Wait, what? What's this about inventories? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Grumpy@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago* I see current classic Bethesda as just a modders sandbox. Which I actually like. So starfield has been inline with my expectations. Moon buggy mod may come out eventually. You can ride dragons and fly around in Skyrim. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) Its empty. Nothing is happening on the planets. You walk for minutes from one place to the next, have 2 loading screens in that time and nothing of interest is happening permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Sharpiemarker@feddit.de -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CryptidBestiary@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Just because it's about space doesn't mean it can't be written well, or have any well thought out game design, or any optimization. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Globulart@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Hating Bethesda is cool at the moment so people only discuss the negatives of starfield and not the positives. Having said that I'm only 8hrs in so my opinion isn't worth shit really. But I'm enjoying it so far having met constellation and then just fucked off on my own for a bit to explore permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 4 points 2 years ago Seems to be really divided. Probably related to how people perceive the main game loop. You either hate it, in which case you'll be restricted to the main quest, which isn't very long; or you love it, in which case you can keep playing for hundreds of hours. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Sunfoil@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago You can enjoy it, but that doesn't mean it's good. I would just have fun with it if you don't see any problems. Otherwise if you're curious, go and find the reviews that outline very clearly how bad it is. permalink fedilink source parent [–] kandoh@reddthat.com 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) I would describe Fallout 4 as Mid, but I still out over 1000 hours into it. Never progressed the main story past meeting my Son. Starfield is lacking that charm that FO4 had. Post-apocolyptic Boston had more working computers to read lore of of than in all the settled systems. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] aesopjah@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago I had forgotten how pointless the computers were. Barely any lore on them even. And the worst simply Open Door that is right in front of you. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] UmeU@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (4 children) What’s wrong with star field, I’m about 200 hours in and still am enjoying it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] echodot@feddit.uk 18 points 2 years ago (2 children) It's not garbage it's just classic Bethesda, by which I mean current classic Bethesda, as opposed to classic classic Bethesda. Have you noticed how pretty much every mission is, fast travel to place x, kill a bunch of grunts, loot the body of the main guy, fast travel back to quest giver, get money. The story is fine but the gameplay loop is just dull. I want to fly my ship around and I want a moon buggy (What's the point of entire procedurally generated planets if you can't look at them, I know they're boring but still). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] delitomatoes@lemm.ee 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) I just played Morrowind for the first time. If you talk to someone not facing you, they will not rotate to look at you. This feature is still in Starfield permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] echodot@feddit.uk 8 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Turning characters to look at you requires game boy level technology, I don't think Bethesda developers ready for that level just yet. They still haven't figured out how to store inventories in code. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LucasWaffyWaf@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Wait, what? What's this about inventories? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Grumpy@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago* I see current classic Bethesda as just a modders sandbox. Which I actually like. So starfield has been inline with my expectations. Moon buggy mod may come out eventually. You can ride dragons and fly around in Skyrim. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) Its empty. Nothing is happening on the planets. You walk for minutes from one place to the next, have 2 loading screens in that time and nothing of interest is happening permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Sharpiemarker@feddit.de -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CryptidBestiary@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Just because it's about space doesn't mean it can't be written well, or have any well thought out game design, or any optimization. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Globulart@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Hating Bethesda is cool at the moment so people only discuss the negatives of starfield and not the positives. Having said that I'm only 8hrs in so my opinion isn't worth shit really. But I'm enjoying it so far having met constellation and then just fucked off on my own for a bit to explore permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 4 points 2 years ago Seems to be really divided. Probably related to how people perceive the main game loop. You either hate it, in which case you'll be restricted to the main quest, which isn't very long; or you love it, in which case you can keep playing for hundreds of hours. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Sunfoil@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago You can enjoy it, but that doesn't mean it's good. I would just have fun with it if you don't see any problems. Otherwise if you're curious, go and find the reviews that outline very clearly how bad it is. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] echodot@feddit.uk 18 points 2 years ago (2 children) It's not garbage it's just classic Bethesda, by which I mean current classic Bethesda, as opposed to classic classic Bethesda. Have you noticed how pretty much every mission is, fast travel to place x, kill a bunch of grunts, loot the body of the main guy, fast travel back to quest giver, get money. The story is fine but the gameplay loop is just dull. I want to fly my ship around and I want a moon buggy (What's the point of entire procedurally generated planets if you can't look at them, I know they're boring but still). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] delitomatoes@lemm.ee 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) I just played Morrowind for the first time. If you talk to someone not facing you, they will not rotate to look at you. This feature is still in Starfield permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] echodot@feddit.uk 8 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Turning characters to look at you requires game boy level technology, I don't think Bethesda developers ready for that level just yet. They still haven't figured out how to store inventories in code. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LucasWaffyWaf@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Wait, what? What's this about inventories? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Grumpy@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago* I see current classic Bethesda as just a modders sandbox. Which I actually like. So starfield has been inline with my expectations. Moon buggy mod may come out eventually. You can ride dragons and fly around in Skyrim. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] delitomatoes@lemm.ee 11 points 2 years ago (1 child) I just played Morrowind for the first time. If you talk to someone not facing you, they will not rotate to look at you. This feature is still in Starfield permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] echodot@feddit.uk 8 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Turning characters to look at you requires game boy level technology, I don't think Bethesda developers ready for that level just yet. They still haven't figured out how to store inventories in code. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LucasWaffyWaf@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Wait, what? What's this about inventories? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] echodot@feddit.uk 8 points 2 years ago* (1 child) Turning characters to look at you requires game boy level technology, I don't think Bethesda developers ready for that level just yet. They still haven't figured out how to store inventories in code. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LucasWaffyWaf@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Wait, what? What's this about inventories? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] LucasWaffyWaf@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Wait, what? What's this about inventories? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Grumpy@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago* I see current classic Bethesda as just a modders sandbox. Which I actually like. So starfield has been inline with my expectations. Moon buggy mod may come out eventually. You can ride dragons and fly around in Skyrim. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) Its empty. Nothing is happening on the planets. You walk for minutes from one place to the next, have 2 loading screens in that time and nothing of interest is happening permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Sharpiemarker@feddit.de -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CryptidBestiary@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Just because it's about space doesn't mean it can't be written well, or have any well thought out game design, or any optimization. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Sharpiemarker@feddit.de -5 points 2 years ago (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CryptidBestiary@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Just because it's about space doesn't mean it can't be written well, or have any well thought out game design, or any optimization. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CryptidBestiary@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Just because it's about space doesn't mean it can't be written well, or have any well thought out game design, or any optimization. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Globulart@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Hating Bethesda is cool at the moment so people only discuss the negatives of starfield and not the positives. Having said that I'm only 8hrs in so my opinion isn't worth shit really. But I'm enjoying it so far having met constellation and then just fucked off on my own for a bit to explore permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 4 points 2 years ago Seems to be really divided. Probably related to how people perceive the main game loop. You either hate it, in which case you'll be restricted to the main quest, which isn't very long; or you love it, in which case you can keep playing for hundreds of hours. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 4 points 2 years ago Seems to be really divided. Probably related to how people perceive the main game loop. You either hate it, in which case you'll be restricted to the main quest, which isn't very long; or you love it, in which case you can keep playing for hundreds of hours. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sunfoil@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago You can enjoy it, but that doesn't mean it's good. I would just have fun with it if you don't see any problems. Otherwise if you're curious, go and find the reviews that outline very clearly how bad it is. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) I would describe Fallout 4 as Mid, but I still out over 1000 hours into it. Never progressed the main story past meeting my Son. Starfield is lacking that charm that FO4 had. Post-apocolyptic Boston had more working computers to read lore of of than in all the settled systems. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] aesopjah@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago I had forgotten how pointless the computers were. Barely any lore on them even. And the worst simply Open Door that is right in front of you. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] aesopjah@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago I had forgotten how pointless the computers were. Barely any lore on them even. And the worst simply Open Door that is right in front of you. permalink fedilink source parent