Figures are source of dispute as US defense department days ago reduced record of troops killed and wounded

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[–] 19 points 1 day ago (3 children)

The thing is though, this is all an optional illegal war to distract from the Epstein files so the US’s child raping ruling class can continue to evade justice.

The U.S. is absolutely more evil here. It’s not even close.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 day ago (3 children)

    I guess I forgot to consult my abacus.

    This isn't a game. We don't have to pick a side. The Iranian government is an oppressive regime that murders homosexuals, imprisons journalists, and represses women. Their citizens live under absolute censorship and face brutal, violent repression for dissent. We're meant to cheer for that now... because Epstein? Cover up their crimes? Pretend they're fighting for justice?

    Whether it's an immoral war of choice or people escaped justice for crimes associated with Epstein, why would we let it turn us into shittier people? Iran are not good guys.

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  • [–] 9 points 21 hours ago (1 child)

    The oppressive “regime” is irrelevant here. They are only being attacked because the real hostile state in the region: Israel wants us to because their blackmail operation got caught and they want to expand their borders.

    The U.S. and Israeli regimes are 100% in the wrong here, and Irans government is irrelevant to those facts. They’re not helping the people of Iran, they’re doing imperialism.

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  • [–] 0 points 9 hours ago (1 child)

    Counterpoint: the oppressive regime is never irrelevant.

    The Iranian government cannot be irrelevant because the person I replied to initially was writing fiction about their behaviour. It's why we're having a conversation at all.

    Last I checked, no one here is arguing that the US or Israel are helping the Iranian people. But as I said before, the US (or Israel) being bad doesn't make Iran good.

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  • [–] 0 points 6 hours ago (1 child)

    Oh you’re right… it’s totally worth spending 37bn+ on a war to protect US child raping ruling class from justice.

    Maybe there’s other countries you deem bad we can indiscriminately bomb on behalf of Israel?

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  • [–] 0 points 6 hours ago (1 child)

    It seems like you may be malfunctioning. That's a wild non-sequitur.

    Who are you having that conversation with? And why are you replying to me?

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  • [–] 1 point 5 hours ago

    You seem intent on pointing out Iran is bad, in spite of the fact that the reason it’s in the spotlight is mainly as a distraction from punishment at home.

    “Iran bad” is irrelevant to you. You are clearly not Iranian; it literally doesn’t matter what you think about Iranians government to compare them to the two governments that almost certainly relevant to you. They can deal with their own problems internally, and the imperialist two shithead governments deserve the full weight of criticism.

    So yeah, welcome to conversations online clearly you are new to them as people can discuss things, and reply to your comments.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    The point being made is that it’s not a zero sum equation, though. That’s not a defense of the US. It’s pointing out a flaw in the logical and moral argument that’s being made.

    Personally, I’m on the side of Iranian civilians, but I have very, very little sympathy for the Iranian regime.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 day ago (3 children)

    I don't think that's true at all.

    I mean the US has kinda rapidly descended towards being evil. Iran has been evil consistently since the revolution in '79.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 day ago* (1 child)

    The revolution that was a response to the USA staging a coup two decades earlier to install their oil-company-friendly dictator over their democratically elected leader that thought the oil profits should benefit the people instead of international oil companies?

    America ALWAYS been evil. It’s delusional to think it was “just recent!”

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  • [–] -2 points 1 day ago (3 children)

    It's delusional to think that Iran is less evil than the US.

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  • [–] 1 point 17 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

    The pile of corpses of either Israel or the US is many times higher than the pile of corpses of Iran.

    Israel is the closest to the NAZIs there is in behavior, including purposefully targeting children, whilst the US unwaveringly supports them and will themselves not really care enough about what they target with bombs to avoid killing children.

    Comparing the evilness of Iran to that of those two is like comparing the evilness of Somoza in Nicaragua with that of the NAZIs.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 day ago*

    I think the US government maybe has less "concentration of evil" but since its it got so many hands in so many pies the mass market scale of evil going on here is pretty brutal.

    Plus like Gaza makes the Saudi government look good by comparison. The Saudi government who regularly murders critics and has a bunch of insane laws to control people.

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  • [–] 0 points 22 hours ago

    Yes sure iran was not ruled by rvil before the revolution. The shah never kidnapped, tortured, raped and killed people \s.

    The usa was always evil. For example the illegal Vietnam war is older than the revolution

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