β² 442 βΌ Itβs the endgame. (64.media.tumblr.com) submitted 2 days ago by FoxtrotDeltaTango@sh.itjust.works to c/comicstrips@lemmy.world 28 comments fedilink hide all child comments cross-posted from: https://mander.xyz/post/51622810
[β] BlaestEgnen@feddit.dk 6 points 2 days ago (4 children) But in case of a radioactive catastrophe, how long would you need the bunker to last? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [β] echodot@feddit.uk 16 points 2 days ago* (1 child) Depends on the type of bomb, the yield, and if it was an air burst or ground burst strike. Back in the cold war they used to say between 3 and 6 weeks but with modern nukes which have larger yields it's actually probably less time because they are fusion based, which don't produce as much radioactivity. Just make sure to ignore the preppers, because they haven't actually got a clue. One of the things they always seem to stock is hunting equipment, so they're proposing to go hunt after a nuclear fallout event. Yeah they went won't long. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] BlaestEgnen@feddit.dk 3 points 2 days ago (1 child) The hunting equipment can be for other scenarios. Financial systems breakdown, into full anarchy. I reckon a cabin in nowhere, hunting equipment and barn full of seeds would be pretty rad for that scenario. But yeah, eating plants is better than eating animals when contamination is a risk permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Bluewing@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 child) You don't think those plants aren't going to take up nuclear fallout as they grow? Or that even disturbing the soil by working it will give you plenty of exposure? Leafy greens and root crops would be the worst for exposure. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] BlaestEgnen@feddit.dk 5 points 2 days ago The thing is contamination pollutes upwards, so if leafy greens have 1 mg of radiation per daily intake. The meat from herbivores would be something like ten times that amount and carnivores would be ten times the contamination of herbivores. We're seeing this effect with micro plastics and fish, the higher up in the food chain a fish is, the more micro plastics they have permalink fedilink source parent [β] Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 3 points 2 days ago* (1 child) I think 2 or 3 weeks, you should wait for the government to tell you that it's safe though permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] cosmos8188@leminal.space 3 points 2 days ago That is if the government isnt directly responsible for this. permalink fedilink source parent [β] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) What is the minimum safe time to shelter? 24 hours absolute minimum. 72 hours per most civil defence authorities. 14 days for a designed shelter in a fallout zone. And after that, it depends on how much of society is left. But you also have to think about the time the shelter is on standby, and that might be decades. You don't want by the time you enter the shelter to find out there is mold everywhere, the food is all expired and the fuel tank corroded and leaked. permalink fedilink source parent [β] somethingsnappy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago Just until you die. So maybe a few decades. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] echodot@feddit.uk 16 points 2 days ago* (1 child) Depends on the type of bomb, the yield, and if it was an air burst or ground burst strike. Back in the cold war they used to say between 3 and 6 weeks but with modern nukes which have larger yields it's actually probably less time because they are fusion based, which don't produce as much radioactivity. Just make sure to ignore the preppers, because they haven't actually got a clue. One of the things they always seem to stock is hunting equipment, so they're proposing to go hunt after a nuclear fallout event. Yeah they went won't long. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] BlaestEgnen@feddit.dk 3 points 2 days ago (1 child) The hunting equipment can be for other scenarios. Financial systems breakdown, into full anarchy. I reckon a cabin in nowhere, hunting equipment and barn full of seeds would be pretty rad for that scenario. But yeah, eating plants is better than eating animals when contamination is a risk permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Bluewing@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 child) You don't think those plants aren't going to take up nuclear fallout as they grow? Or that even disturbing the soil by working it will give you plenty of exposure? Leafy greens and root crops would be the worst for exposure. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] BlaestEgnen@feddit.dk 5 points 2 days ago The thing is contamination pollutes upwards, so if leafy greens have 1 mg of radiation per daily intake. The meat from herbivores would be something like ten times that amount and carnivores would be ten times the contamination of herbivores. We're seeing this effect with micro plastics and fish, the higher up in the food chain a fish is, the more micro plastics they have permalink fedilink source parent
[β] BlaestEgnen@feddit.dk 3 points 2 days ago (1 child) The hunting equipment can be for other scenarios. Financial systems breakdown, into full anarchy. I reckon a cabin in nowhere, hunting equipment and barn full of seeds would be pretty rad for that scenario. But yeah, eating plants is better than eating animals when contamination is a risk permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Bluewing@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 child) You don't think those plants aren't going to take up nuclear fallout as they grow? Or that even disturbing the soil by working it will give you plenty of exposure? Leafy greens and root crops would be the worst for exposure. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] BlaestEgnen@feddit.dk 5 points 2 days ago The thing is contamination pollutes upwards, so if leafy greens have 1 mg of radiation per daily intake. The meat from herbivores would be something like ten times that amount and carnivores would be ten times the contamination of herbivores. We're seeing this effect with micro plastics and fish, the higher up in the food chain a fish is, the more micro plastics they have permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Bluewing@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 child) You don't think those plants aren't going to take up nuclear fallout as they grow? Or that even disturbing the soil by working it will give you plenty of exposure? Leafy greens and root crops would be the worst for exposure. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] BlaestEgnen@feddit.dk 5 points 2 days ago The thing is contamination pollutes upwards, so if leafy greens have 1 mg of radiation per daily intake. The meat from herbivores would be something like ten times that amount and carnivores would be ten times the contamination of herbivores. We're seeing this effect with micro plastics and fish, the higher up in the food chain a fish is, the more micro plastics they have permalink fedilink source parent
[β] BlaestEgnen@feddit.dk 5 points 2 days ago The thing is contamination pollutes upwards, so if leafy greens have 1 mg of radiation per daily intake. The meat from herbivores would be something like ten times that amount and carnivores would be ten times the contamination of herbivores. We're seeing this effect with micro plastics and fish, the higher up in the food chain a fish is, the more micro plastics they have permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 3 points 2 days ago* (1 child) I think 2 or 3 weeks, you should wait for the government to tell you that it's safe though permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] cosmos8188@leminal.space 3 points 2 days ago That is if the government isnt directly responsible for this. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] cosmos8188@leminal.space 3 points 2 days ago That is if the government isnt directly responsible for this. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) What is the minimum safe time to shelter? 24 hours absolute minimum. 72 hours per most civil defence authorities. 14 days for a designed shelter in a fallout zone. And after that, it depends on how much of society is left. But you also have to think about the time the shelter is on standby, and that might be decades. You don't want by the time you enter the shelter to find out there is mold everywhere, the food is all expired and the fuel tank corroded and leaked. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] somethingsnappy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago Just until you die. So maybe a few decades. permalink fedilink source parent
