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[–] 11 points 1 month ago (4 children)

What third space did we used to have as kids that we no longer have?

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  • [–] 29 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

    Malls, Chuck-E-Cheese, walkable neighborhoods and main streets, a lot of diners and such have been shut down in the past half century. Cities have kind of restructured around increased industry and productivity.

    Parks are making a comeback, though, I hear.

    EDIT: OH, and LIBRARIES. For clear reasons conservatives the world over are trying tk dismantle public libraries.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Parks aren't even always useful, as they require driving to. And worst of all, most cities dictate only allow park use during daylight hours because they want to keep the homeless away.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child)

    For kids growing up in car-dependent suburbia, outside does not exist. If you can't drive, you're trapped in your home, unless you want to just go for a walk among endless identical winding cookie cutter streets.

    Where is a kid in suburbia supposed to go that's actually within walking distance? I suppose they could just hang out on the street. But homeowners seeing a group of teen loitering on the sidewalk in front of their home will call the cops. Hell, sometimes just walking around is enough to get a group of teens harassed by police.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Not really.

    I'm old enough to remember when grade school kids could get on a bus or subway alone without anyone saying anything.

    If you made 'Stand By Me' today all the parents would be locked up for child endangerment.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    Yes, but very few parents just let their kids run around outside. Very few kids get to walk or bike to friends houses, without adult supervision. We have all internalized "stranger danger" and the "danger" that random people are to kids.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    In my suburban high school social world, before cell phones:

    • Loitering around shopping malls
    • Showing up to the movie theater an hour or two before the movie we all agreed to watch together, and then an hour or two after.
    • Parks and playgrounds if the weather was ok
    • Cafes, diners, restaurants where lingering was tolerated, even for those who didn't order anything.
    • Local sporting events (usually high school or rec league teams).

    A lot of these still exist in some degree, but the loss of malls and movie theaters has really put a damper on things, and the rise of cell phones has deemphasized the need for in person interactions with peers (rather than following an influencer on social media).

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago

    Loitering was basically never prosecuted. Now it is. Just hanging out at the movie theater for an hour or two before/after a movie sounds like a great way to get arrested.

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