▲ 865 ▼ bring back third places (lemmy.blahaj.zone) submitted 1 month ago by not_IO@lemmy.blahaj.zone to c/microblogmemes@lemmy.world 107 comments fedilink hide all child comments https://433.world/@Yuvalne/116782642610090955
[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago (4 children) What third space did we used to have as kids that we no longer have? permalink fedilink source hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 29 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children) Malls, Chuck-E-Cheese, walkable neighborhoods and main streets, a lot of diners and such have been shut down in the past half century. Cities have kind of restructured around increased industry and productivity. Parks are making a comeback, though, I hear. EDIT: OH, and LIBRARIES. For clear reasons conservatives the world over are trying tk dismantle public libraries. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 26 points 1 month ago* You forgot construction sites, drainage gullies, and random patches of forest. Oh, and the middle of corn fields. That’s where Amish kids would go to party in my day. They had the best weed. permalink fedilink source parent [–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (2 children) Parks aren't even always useful, as they require driving to. And worst of all, most cities dictate only allow park use during daylight hours because they want to keep the homeless away. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] VibeSurgeon@piefed.social 4 points 1 month ago This is an American problem that is not applicable to other parts of the world permalink fedilink source parent [–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 month ago I think that's precisely the issue. They should be more accessible to everyone, particularly on foot. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip 2 points 1 month ago Chuck e cheese still exists. They look more like a Dave and busters inside though permalink fedilink source parent [–] mrmaplebar@fedia.io 0 points 1 month ago Here in Portland, I'm not sure that the city and suburbs were any more walkable in the past than they are today. permalink fedilink source parent [–] valar@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 month ago (1 child) Outside permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mrmaplebar@fedia.io -3 points 1 month ago (5 children) Outside still exists... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 1 month ago* Outside™: now with more extreme heat watches and smoke advisories! permalink fedilink source parent [–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child) For kids growing up in car-dependent suburbia, outside does not exist. If you can't drive, you're trapped in your home, unless you want to just go for a walk among endless identical winding cookie cutter streets. Where is a kid in suburbia supposed to go that's actually within walking distance? I suppose they could just hang out on the street. But homeowners seeing a group of teen loitering on the sidewalk in front of their home will call the cops. Hell, sometimes just walking around is enough to get a group of teens harassed by police. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Jesus_666@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago "Hell" sound like an accurate description. I wouldn't want to live in such a place as an adult, much less a minor. permalink fedilink source parent [–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 12 points 1 month ago (1 child) Not really. I'm old enough to remember when grade school kids could get on a bus or subway alone without anyone saying anything. If you made 'Stand By Me' today all the parents would be locked up for child endangerment. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mrmaplebar@fedia.io -4 points 1 month ago (1 child) Sure... but it's not so much that places have changed, but that parenting has. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 7 points 1 month ago I mean, if you can't just show up, than the places have changed. permalink fedilink source parent [–] valar@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) Most kids today can't just go outside with all their friends and come back when the streetlights turn on like many of us did as kids. permalink fedilink source parent [–] taj@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago Yes, but very few parents just let their kids run around outside. Very few kids get to walk or bike to friends houses, without adult supervision. We have all internalized "stranger danger" and the "danger" that random people are to kids. permalink fedilink source parent [–] exasperation@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 month ago (3 children) In my suburban high school social world, before cell phones: Loitering around shopping malls Showing up to the movie theater an hour or two before the movie we all agreed to watch together, and then an hour or two after. Parks and playgrounds if the weather was ok Cafes, diners, restaurants where lingering was tolerated, even for those who didn't order anything. Local sporting events (usually high school or rec league teams). A lot of these still exist in some degree, but the loss of malls and movie theaters has really put a damper on things, and the rise of cell phones has deemphasized the need for in person interactions with peers (rather than following an influencer on social media). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Inucune@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (1 child) I'm going to throw in 'the local field that isn't a park but people use it like one.' permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 3 points 1 month ago Yep. The good old vacant lot that nobody gives a shit about. Really underrated place for kids. permalink fedilink source parent [–] taj@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago Loitering was basically never prosecuted. Now it is. Just hanging out at the movie theater for an hour or two before/after a movie sounds like a great way to get arrested. permalink fedilink source parent [–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 child) TBH I hadn't noticed the loss of malls. I guess that's a problem though. Around me there's still plenty. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] taj@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago There's still lots of malls .. but they're empty. And often prohibit minors without an adult. permalink fedilink source parent [–] gandalf_der_12te@feddit.org 4 points 1 month ago mostly a park to sit around at. and what i miss more than the park, is the people to hang around with. it just seems like nobody got time these days. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 29 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children) Malls, Chuck-E-Cheese, walkable neighborhoods and main streets, a lot of diners and such have been shut down in the past half century. Cities have kind of restructured around increased industry and productivity. Parks are making a comeback, though, I hear. EDIT: OH, and LIBRARIES. For clear reasons conservatives the world over are trying tk dismantle public libraries. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 26 points 1 month ago* You forgot construction sites, drainage gullies, and random patches of forest. Oh, and the middle of corn fields. That’s where Amish kids would go to party in my day. They had the best weed. permalink fedilink source parent [–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (2 children) Parks aren't even always useful, as they require driving to. And worst of all, most cities dictate only allow park use during daylight hours because they want to keep the homeless away. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] VibeSurgeon@piefed.social 4 points 1 month ago This is an American problem that is not applicable to other parts of the world permalink fedilink source parent [–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 month ago I think that's precisely the issue. They should be more accessible to everyone, particularly on foot. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip 2 points 1 month ago Chuck e cheese still exists. They look more like a Dave and busters inside though permalink fedilink source parent [–] mrmaplebar@fedia.io 0 points 1 month ago Here in Portland, I'm not sure that the city and suburbs were any more walkable in the past than they are today. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 26 points 1 month ago* You forgot construction sites, drainage gullies, and random patches of forest. Oh, and the middle of corn fields. That’s where Amish kids would go to party in my day. They had the best weed. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (2 children) Parks aren't even always useful, as they require driving to. And worst of all, most cities dictate only allow park use during daylight hours because they want to keep the homeless away. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] VibeSurgeon@piefed.social 4 points 1 month ago This is an American problem that is not applicable to other parts of the world permalink fedilink source parent [–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 month ago I think that's precisely the issue. They should be more accessible to everyone, particularly on foot. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] VibeSurgeon@piefed.social 4 points 1 month ago This is an American problem that is not applicable to other parts of the world permalink fedilink source parent
[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 month ago I think that's precisely the issue. They should be more accessible to everyone, particularly on foot. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip 2 points 1 month ago Chuck e cheese still exists. They look more like a Dave and busters inside though permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mrmaplebar@fedia.io 0 points 1 month ago Here in Portland, I'm not sure that the city and suburbs were any more walkable in the past than they are today. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] valar@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 month ago (1 child) Outside permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mrmaplebar@fedia.io -3 points 1 month ago (5 children) Outside still exists... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 1 month ago* Outside™: now with more extreme heat watches and smoke advisories! permalink fedilink source parent [–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child) For kids growing up in car-dependent suburbia, outside does not exist. If you can't drive, you're trapped in your home, unless you want to just go for a walk among endless identical winding cookie cutter streets. Where is a kid in suburbia supposed to go that's actually within walking distance? I suppose they could just hang out on the street. But homeowners seeing a group of teen loitering on the sidewalk in front of their home will call the cops. Hell, sometimes just walking around is enough to get a group of teens harassed by police. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Jesus_666@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago "Hell" sound like an accurate description. I wouldn't want to live in such a place as an adult, much less a minor. permalink fedilink source parent [–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 12 points 1 month ago (1 child) Not really. I'm old enough to remember when grade school kids could get on a bus or subway alone without anyone saying anything. If you made 'Stand By Me' today all the parents would be locked up for child endangerment. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mrmaplebar@fedia.io -4 points 1 month ago (1 child) Sure... but it's not so much that places have changed, but that parenting has. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 7 points 1 month ago I mean, if you can't just show up, than the places have changed. permalink fedilink source parent [–] valar@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) Most kids today can't just go outside with all their friends and come back when the streetlights turn on like many of us did as kids. permalink fedilink source parent [–] taj@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago Yes, but very few parents just let their kids run around outside. Very few kids get to walk or bike to friends houses, without adult supervision. We have all internalized "stranger danger" and the "danger" that random people are to kids. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mrmaplebar@fedia.io -3 points 1 month ago (5 children) Outside still exists... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 1 month ago* Outside™: now with more extreme heat watches and smoke advisories! permalink fedilink source parent [–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child) For kids growing up in car-dependent suburbia, outside does not exist. If you can't drive, you're trapped in your home, unless you want to just go for a walk among endless identical winding cookie cutter streets. Where is a kid in suburbia supposed to go that's actually within walking distance? I suppose they could just hang out on the street. But homeowners seeing a group of teen loitering on the sidewalk in front of their home will call the cops. Hell, sometimes just walking around is enough to get a group of teens harassed by police. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Jesus_666@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago "Hell" sound like an accurate description. I wouldn't want to live in such a place as an adult, much less a minor. permalink fedilink source parent [–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 12 points 1 month ago (1 child) Not really. I'm old enough to remember when grade school kids could get on a bus or subway alone without anyone saying anything. If you made 'Stand By Me' today all the parents would be locked up for child endangerment. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mrmaplebar@fedia.io -4 points 1 month ago (1 child) Sure... but it's not so much that places have changed, but that parenting has. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 7 points 1 month ago I mean, if you can't just show up, than the places have changed. permalink fedilink source parent [–] valar@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) Most kids today can't just go outside with all their friends and come back when the streetlights turn on like many of us did as kids. permalink fedilink source parent [–] taj@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago Yes, but very few parents just let their kids run around outside. Very few kids get to walk or bike to friends houses, without adult supervision. We have all internalized "stranger danger" and the "danger" that random people are to kids. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 1 month ago* Outside™: now with more extreme heat watches and smoke advisories! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child) For kids growing up in car-dependent suburbia, outside does not exist. If you can't drive, you're trapped in your home, unless you want to just go for a walk among endless identical winding cookie cutter streets. Where is a kid in suburbia supposed to go that's actually within walking distance? I suppose they could just hang out on the street. But homeowners seeing a group of teen loitering on the sidewalk in front of their home will call the cops. Hell, sometimes just walking around is enough to get a group of teens harassed by police. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Jesus_666@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago "Hell" sound like an accurate description. I wouldn't want to live in such a place as an adult, much less a minor. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Jesus_666@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago "Hell" sound like an accurate description. I wouldn't want to live in such a place as an adult, much less a minor. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 12 points 1 month ago (1 child) Not really. I'm old enough to remember when grade school kids could get on a bus or subway alone without anyone saying anything. If you made 'Stand By Me' today all the parents would be locked up for child endangerment. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mrmaplebar@fedia.io -4 points 1 month ago (1 child) Sure... but it's not so much that places have changed, but that parenting has. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 7 points 1 month ago I mean, if you can't just show up, than the places have changed. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mrmaplebar@fedia.io -4 points 1 month ago (1 child) Sure... but it's not so much that places have changed, but that parenting has. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 7 points 1 month ago I mean, if you can't just show up, than the places have changed. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 7 points 1 month ago I mean, if you can't just show up, than the places have changed. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] valar@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) Most kids today can't just go outside with all their friends and come back when the streetlights turn on like many of us did as kids. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] taj@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago Yes, but very few parents just let their kids run around outside. Very few kids get to walk or bike to friends houses, without adult supervision. We have all internalized "stranger danger" and the "danger" that random people are to kids. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] exasperation@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 month ago (3 children) In my suburban high school social world, before cell phones: Loitering around shopping malls Showing up to the movie theater an hour or two before the movie we all agreed to watch together, and then an hour or two after. Parks and playgrounds if the weather was ok Cafes, diners, restaurants where lingering was tolerated, even for those who didn't order anything. Local sporting events (usually high school or rec league teams). A lot of these still exist in some degree, but the loss of malls and movie theaters has really put a damper on things, and the rise of cell phones has deemphasized the need for in person interactions with peers (rather than following an influencer on social media). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Inucune@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (1 child) I'm going to throw in 'the local field that isn't a park but people use it like one.' permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 3 points 1 month ago Yep. The good old vacant lot that nobody gives a shit about. Really underrated place for kids. permalink fedilink source parent [–] taj@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago Loitering was basically never prosecuted. Now it is. Just hanging out at the movie theater for an hour or two before/after a movie sounds like a great way to get arrested. permalink fedilink source parent [–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 child) TBH I hadn't noticed the loss of malls. I guess that's a problem though. Around me there's still plenty. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] taj@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago There's still lots of malls .. but they're empty. And often prohibit minors without an adult. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Inucune@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (1 child) I'm going to throw in 'the local field that isn't a park but people use it like one.' permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 3 points 1 month ago Yep. The good old vacant lot that nobody gives a shit about. Really underrated place for kids. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 3 points 1 month ago Yep. The good old vacant lot that nobody gives a shit about. Really underrated place for kids. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] taj@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago Loitering was basically never prosecuted. Now it is. Just hanging out at the movie theater for an hour or two before/after a movie sounds like a great way to get arrested. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 child) TBH I hadn't noticed the loss of malls. I guess that's a problem though. Around me there's still plenty. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] taj@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago There's still lots of malls .. but they're empty. And often prohibit minors without an adult. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] taj@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago There's still lots of malls .. but they're empty. And often prohibit minors without an adult. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] gandalf_der_12te@feddit.org 4 points 1 month ago mostly a park to sit around at. and what i miss more than the park, is the people to hang around with. it just seems like nobody got time these days. permalink fedilink source parent