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[–] Tempus_Fugit@lemmy.world 106 points 5 months ago (7 children) Thank fuck I literally use none of those services. permalink fedilink source hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] SmackemWittadic@lemmy.world 53 points 5 months ago (5 children) I wish WhatsApp wasn't the main form of communication in my area of the world. That's the only one I'm on and it's because I could not convince anyone around me to just use texts or download signal permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Tempus_Fugit@lemmy.world 26 points 5 months ago (2 children) Yes you should break yourself from all of the US and Israeli tech stack. They cannot be trusted. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SmackemWittadic@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago It's hard to get away from the hardware companies through. I'm all AMD because they're a little less evil, but they're in the same AI bubble and also currently doing little in terms of innovation since they already have the performance advantage permalink fedilink source parent [–] defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 5 months ago You should break yourself from any tech stack that isn't open source and either decentralized or federated if it's an online service, regardless of country of origin. permalink fedilink source parent [+] TheSeveralJourneysOfReemus@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SmackemWittadic@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (1 child) Neither do I, I only use it for sending and recieving messages. I don't think anyone uses the AI bullshit that was added to it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] TheSeveralJourneysOfReemus@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SmackemWittadic@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (1 child) It was so much better when the search bar was just for contacts or chat messages instead of all the genuinely useless terms permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] TheSeveralJourneysOfReemus@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SmackemWittadic@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago* (1 child) The dumb thing is that Meta owns Instagram and WhatsApp, so if every one of their apps have these features what's the point of downloading more than one of them? EDIT: I misread telegram as Instagram lmao, but either way there's no point in using any of them permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 child) Because they were originally successful companies that weren't owned by meta, and meta couldn't have that so they bought them. Why this doesn't violate anti-trust laws is anybody's guess... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SmackemWittadic@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago Yeah I think meant the effort that was put in to add features to one of their apps when they were already present in the others permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (3 replies) [–] Geth@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 5 months ago (1 child) But everyone else does and they will be voting in the next election dragging you down with them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tempus_Fugit@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (1 child) I can't control other people, only myself. If they want to sleepwalk into lies and fake propaganda there is nothing I can do. Your point? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Danquebec@sh.itjust.works 10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 child) The control of media and of communication by the wealthy is mainly a threat to society. It's not like eating junk food where you're only harming yourself. We're all threatened by people being ignorant and propagandized. Now, what you can do, there are many things. Talk to your neighbors, involve yourself in your community, get people to come on the Fediverse, demonstrate, etc. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tempus_Fugit@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago* (1 child) I do all of that already. If my friends and family take my advice it is their choice. I cannot nor would I want to force them into it. You can't save people from themselves, especially if they're unwilling. You can only save yourself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Danquebec@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 months ago I commend you for doing your part. permalink fedilink source parent [–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 12 points 5 months ago (1 child) I don’t either. Too bad 99.9% of the rest of the people do. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] three@lemmy.zip 19 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 child) Too bad 99.9% of the rest of the people do. This is the problem. Good job lemmings, pat on the back for separating yourself from all this bullshit. Unfortunately, the thousands of us here don't have super mega voting power..... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MrShankles@reddthat.com 9 points 5 months ago Really is a shame permalink fedilink source parent [–] not_IO@lemmy.blahaj.zone [S] 6 points 5 months ago (2 children) ur still affected by how these influence the news cycle and general societal conversation permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 2 points 5 months ago Yeah that's the problem. I don't use them, but a bunch of other people do. How do we get them to stop? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Tempus_Fugit@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago Ok, and? Why is everyone up my ass because I'm happy I don't support these elites? Sure the rest of the sheep are grazing in the pasture. How is that my problem? It's not like I don't talk to those in my circle. I can lead a sheep to water but I can't make them drink. permalink fedilink source parent [–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 4 points 5 months ago* (1 child) Right? It’s getting hard to talk to people nowadays because everyone seems brainwashed. But you can’t get them out of it. Asking people to not check those feeds every day is like asking them to go without water. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tempus_Fugit@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (1 child) It's embarrassing how dependant folks have become with technology and social media. I'm not immune myself, but I'll drop anything that goes against my values. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 months ago* I keep trying to relate this to when we started mass-producing books. It must have been the same. We integrated that tech and got better. I am not personally a fan right now. permalink fedilink source parent [–] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (2 children) Lol. Lmao even. You think shaping your habits will protect you. You can't personal responsibility your way out of this. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 11 points 5 months ago (2 children) If you can't solve the problem 100%, why even bother. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 1 point 5 months ago Just vote for trump. It’s all the same. permalink fedilink source parent [–] zbyte64@awful.systems 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) I don't think that's the criticism, rather we fixing the problem at the wrong end of things. We can't fix society by stressing personal responsibility, we need a different tactic. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) If the tactic doesn't benefit the person doing it at all, then they won't do it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] zbyte64@awful.systems 2 points 5 months ago Sure, and that's why I don't bother telling people their voting tactics are wrong. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Tempus_Fugit@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago (16 children) It has little to do with protection and more to do with keeping a clean conscience. I won't support evil. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 16 child comments load more comments (16 replies) [–] thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) The only one mentioned here that i have is WhatsApp, but i barely use it Although i do still use some other nonfree Amerikkkan services. Discord is the main one, i'm quite active on there and it's not that easy to replace because of its structure with communities (also there aren't good alternatives yet, quite hopeful for Fluxer tho). I also use an iPhone and Apple Messages, and i have a Macbook (which I don't use much at the moment) but I'm gonna install Linux on it. I don't make use of iCloud tho, i use Proton Drive and selfhosted email. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tempus_Fugit@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) I'm not trying to rib you here, but I hate that excuse that it's too hard to drop these products. We've lived thousands of years without them, but lack the will now? WTF kinda weak ass shit is that? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) I am not saying that it's hard to drop I'm saying that because of Discord's structure it's hard to move Discord communities to other platforms because you need to move a community of many people rather than just an account on which you post and view posts like when moving from Twitter to Mastodon or Reddit to Lemmy permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] SmackemWittadic@lemmy.world 53 points 5 months ago (5 children) I wish WhatsApp wasn't the main form of communication in my area of the world. That's the only one I'm on and it's because I could not convince anyone around me to just use texts or download signal permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Tempus_Fugit@lemmy.world 26 points 5 months ago (2 children) Yes you should break yourself from all of the US and Israeli tech stack. They cannot be trusted. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SmackemWittadic@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago It's hard to get away from the hardware companies through. I'm all AMD because they're a little less evil, but they're in the same AI bubble and also currently doing little in terms of innovation since they already have the performance advantage permalink fedilink source parent [–] defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 5 months ago You should break yourself from any tech stack that isn't open source and either decentralized or federated if it's an online service, regardless of country of origin. permalink fedilink source parent [+] TheSeveralJourneysOfReemus@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SmackemWittadic@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (1 child) Neither do I, I only use it for sending and recieving messages. I don't think anyone uses the AI bullshit that was added to it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] TheSeveralJourneysOfReemus@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SmackemWittadic@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (1 child) It was so much better when the search bar was just for contacts or chat messages instead of all the genuinely useless terms permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] TheSeveralJourneysOfReemus@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SmackemWittadic@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago* (1 child) The dumb thing is that Meta owns Instagram and WhatsApp, so if every one of their apps have these features what's the point of downloading more than one of them? EDIT: I misread telegram as Instagram lmao, but either way there's no point in using any of them permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 child) Because they were originally successful companies that weren't owned by meta, and meta couldn't have that so they bought them. Why this doesn't violate anti-trust laws is anybody's guess... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SmackemWittadic@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago Yeah I think meant the effort that was put in to add features to one of their apps when they were already present in the others permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (3 replies)
[–] Tempus_Fugit@lemmy.world 26 points 5 months ago (2 children) Yes you should break yourself from all of the US and Israeli tech stack. They cannot be trusted. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SmackemWittadic@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago It's hard to get away from the hardware companies through. I'm all AMD because they're a little less evil, but they're in the same AI bubble and also currently doing little in terms of innovation since they already have the performance advantage permalink fedilink source parent [–] defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 5 months ago You should break yourself from any tech stack that isn't open source and either decentralized or federated if it's an online service, regardless of country of origin. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SmackemWittadic@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago It's hard to get away from the hardware companies through. I'm all AMD because they're a little less evil, but they're in the same AI bubble and also currently doing little in terms of innovation since they already have the performance advantage permalink fedilink source parent
[–] defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 5 months ago You should break yourself from any tech stack that isn't open source and either decentralized or federated if it's an online service, regardless of country of origin. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] TheSeveralJourneysOfReemus@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SmackemWittadic@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (1 child) Neither do I, I only use it for sending and recieving messages. I don't think anyone uses the AI bullshit that was added to it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] TheSeveralJourneysOfReemus@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SmackemWittadic@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (1 child) It was so much better when the search bar was just for contacts or chat messages instead of all the genuinely useless terms permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] TheSeveralJourneysOfReemus@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SmackemWittadic@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago* (1 child) The dumb thing is that Meta owns Instagram and WhatsApp, so if every one of their apps have these features what's the point of downloading more than one of them? EDIT: I misread telegram as Instagram lmao, but either way there's no point in using any of them permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 child) Because they were originally successful companies that weren't owned by meta, and meta couldn't have that so they bought them. Why this doesn't violate anti-trust laws is anybody's guess... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SmackemWittadic@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago Yeah I think meant the effort that was put in to add features to one of their apps when they were already present in the others permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SmackemWittadic@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (1 child) Neither do I, I only use it for sending and recieving messages. I don't think anyone uses the AI bullshit that was added to it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] TheSeveralJourneysOfReemus@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SmackemWittadic@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (1 child) It was so much better when the search bar was just for contacts or chat messages instead of all the genuinely useless terms permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] TheSeveralJourneysOfReemus@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SmackemWittadic@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago* (1 child) The dumb thing is that Meta owns Instagram and WhatsApp, so if every one of their apps have these features what's the point of downloading more than one of them? EDIT: I misread telegram as Instagram lmao, but either way there's no point in using any of them permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 child) Because they were originally successful companies that weren't owned by meta, and meta couldn't have that so they bought them. Why this doesn't violate anti-trust laws is anybody's guess... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SmackemWittadic@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago Yeah I think meant the effort that was put in to add features to one of their apps when they were already present in the others permalink fedilink source parent
[+] TheSeveralJourneysOfReemus@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SmackemWittadic@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (1 child) It was so much better when the search bar was just for contacts or chat messages instead of all the genuinely useless terms permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] TheSeveralJourneysOfReemus@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SmackemWittadic@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago* (1 child) The dumb thing is that Meta owns Instagram and WhatsApp, so if every one of their apps have these features what's the point of downloading more than one of them? EDIT: I misread telegram as Instagram lmao, but either way there's no point in using any of them permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 child) Because they were originally successful companies that weren't owned by meta, and meta couldn't have that so they bought them. Why this doesn't violate anti-trust laws is anybody's guess... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SmackemWittadic@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago Yeah I think meant the effort that was put in to add features to one of their apps when they were already present in the others permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SmackemWittadic@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (1 child) It was so much better when the search bar was just for contacts or chat messages instead of all the genuinely useless terms permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] TheSeveralJourneysOfReemus@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SmackemWittadic@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago* (1 child) The dumb thing is that Meta owns Instagram and WhatsApp, so if every one of their apps have these features what's the point of downloading more than one of them? EDIT: I misread telegram as Instagram lmao, but either way there's no point in using any of them permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 child) Because they were originally successful companies that weren't owned by meta, and meta couldn't have that so they bought them. Why this doesn't violate anti-trust laws is anybody's guess... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SmackemWittadic@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago Yeah I think meant the effort that was put in to add features to one of their apps when they were already present in the others permalink fedilink source parent
[+] TheSeveralJourneysOfReemus@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SmackemWittadic@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago* (1 child) The dumb thing is that Meta owns Instagram and WhatsApp, so if every one of their apps have these features what's the point of downloading more than one of them? EDIT: I misread telegram as Instagram lmao, but either way there's no point in using any of them permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 child) Because they were originally successful companies that weren't owned by meta, and meta couldn't have that so they bought them. Why this doesn't violate anti-trust laws is anybody's guess... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SmackemWittadic@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago Yeah I think meant the effort that was put in to add features to one of their apps when they were already present in the others permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SmackemWittadic@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago* (1 child) The dumb thing is that Meta owns Instagram and WhatsApp, so if every one of their apps have these features what's the point of downloading more than one of them? EDIT: I misread telegram as Instagram lmao, but either way there's no point in using any of them permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 child) Because they were originally successful companies that weren't owned by meta, and meta couldn't have that so they bought them. Why this doesn't violate anti-trust laws is anybody's guess... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SmackemWittadic@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago Yeah I think meant the effort that was put in to add features to one of their apps when they were already present in the others permalink fedilink source parent
[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 child) Because they were originally successful companies that weren't owned by meta, and meta couldn't have that so they bought them. Why this doesn't violate anti-trust laws is anybody's guess... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SmackemWittadic@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago Yeah I think meant the effort that was put in to add features to one of their apps when they were already present in the others permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SmackemWittadic@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago Yeah I think meant the effort that was put in to add features to one of their apps when they were already present in the others permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Geth@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 5 months ago (1 child) But everyone else does and they will be voting in the next election dragging you down with them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tempus_Fugit@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (1 child) I can't control other people, only myself. If they want to sleepwalk into lies and fake propaganda there is nothing I can do. Your point? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Danquebec@sh.itjust.works 10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 child) The control of media and of communication by the wealthy is mainly a threat to society. It's not like eating junk food where you're only harming yourself. We're all threatened by people being ignorant and propagandized. Now, what you can do, there are many things. Talk to your neighbors, involve yourself in your community, get people to come on the Fediverse, demonstrate, etc. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tempus_Fugit@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago* (1 child) I do all of that already. If my friends and family take my advice it is their choice. I cannot nor would I want to force them into it. You can't save people from themselves, especially if they're unwilling. You can only save yourself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Danquebec@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 months ago I commend you for doing your part. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tempus_Fugit@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (1 child) I can't control other people, only myself. If they want to sleepwalk into lies and fake propaganda there is nothing I can do. Your point? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Danquebec@sh.itjust.works 10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 child) The control of media and of communication by the wealthy is mainly a threat to society. It's not like eating junk food where you're only harming yourself. We're all threatened by people being ignorant and propagandized. Now, what you can do, there are many things. Talk to your neighbors, involve yourself in your community, get people to come on the Fediverse, demonstrate, etc. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tempus_Fugit@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago* (1 child) I do all of that already. If my friends and family take my advice it is their choice. I cannot nor would I want to force them into it. You can't save people from themselves, especially if they're unwilling. You can only save yourself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Danquebec@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 months ago I commend you for doing your part. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Danquebec@sh.itjust.works 10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 child) The control of media and of communication by the wealthy is mainly a threat to society. It's not like eating junk food where you're only harming yourself. We're all threatened by people being ignorant and propagandized. Now, what you can do, there are many things. Talk to your neighbors, involve yourself in your community, get people to come on the Fediverse, demonstrate, etc. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tempus_Fugit@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago* (1 child) I do all of that already. If my friends and family take my advice it is their choice. I cannot nor would I want to force them into it. You can't save people from themselves, especially if they're unwilling. You can only save yourself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Danquebec@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 months ago I commend you for doing your part. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tempus_Fugit@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago* (1 child) I do all of that already. If my friends and family take my advice it is their choice. I cannot nor would I want to force them into it. You can't save people from themselves, especially if they're unwilling. You can only save yourself. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Danquebec@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 months ago I commend you for doing your part. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Danquebec@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 months ago I commend you for doing your part. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 12 points 5 months ago (1 child) I don’t either. Too bad 99.9% of the rest of the people do. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] three@lemmy.zip 19 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 child) Too bad 99.9% of the rest of the people do. This is the problem. Good job lemmings, pat on the back for separating yourself from all this bullshit. Unfortunately, the thousands of us here don't have super mega voting power..... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MrShankles@reddthat.com 9 points 5 months ago Really is a shame permalink fedilink source parent
[–] three@lemmy.zip 19 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 child) Too bad 99.9% of the rest of the people do. This is the problem. Good job lemmings, pat on the back for separating yourself from all this bullshit. Unfortunately, the thousands of us here don't have super mega voting power..... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MrShankles@reddthat.com 9 points 5 months ago Really is a shame permalink fedilink source parent
[–] not_IO@lemmy.blahaj.zone [S] 6 points 5 months ago (2 children) ur still affected by how these influence the news cycle and general societal conversation permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 2 points 5 months ago Yeah that's the problem. I don't use them, but a bunch of other people do. How do we get them to stop? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Tempus_Fugit@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago Ok, and? Why is everyone up my ass because I'm happy I don't support these elites? Sure the rest of the sheep are grazing in the pasture. How is that my problem? It's not like I don't talk to those in my circle. I can lead a sheep to water but I can't make them drink. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 2 points 5 months ago Yeah that's the problem. I don't use them, but a bunch of other people do. How do we get them to stop? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tempus_Fugit@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago Ok, and? Why is everyone up my ass because I'm happy I don't support these elites? Sure the rest of the sheep are grazing in the pasture. How is that my problem? It's not like I don't talk to those in my circle. I can lead a sheep to water but I can't make them drink. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 4 points 5 months ago* (1 child) Right? It’s getting hard to talk to people nowadays because everyone seems brainwashed. But you can’t get them out of it. Asking people to not check those feeds every day is like asking them to go without water. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tempus_Fugit@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (1 child) It's embarrassing how dependant folks have become with technology and social media. I'm not immune myself, but I'll drop anything that goes against my values. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 months ago* I keep trying to relate this to when we started mass-producing books. It must have been the same. We integrated that tech and got better. I am not personally a fan right now. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tempus_Fugit@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (1 child) It's embarrassing how dependant folks have become with technology and social media. I'm not immune myself, but I'll drop anything that goes against my values. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 months ago* I keep trying to relate this to when we started mass-producing books. It must have been the same. We integrated that tech and got better. I am not personally a fan right now. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 months ago* I keep trying to relate this to when we started mass-producing books. It must have been the same. We integrated that tech and got better. I am not personally a fan right now. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (2 children) Lol. Lmao even. You think shaping your habits will protect you. You can't personal responsibility your way out of this. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 11 points 5 months ago (2 children) If you can't solve the problem 100%, why even bother. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 1 point 5 months ago Just vote for trump. It’s all the same. permalink fedilink source parent [–] zbyte64@awful.systems 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) I don't think that's the criticism, rather we fixing the problem at the wrong end of things. We can't fix society by stressing personal responsibility, we need a different tactic. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) If the tactic doesn't benefit the person doing it at all, then they won't do it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] zbyte64@awful.systems 2 points 5 months ago Sure, and that's why I don't bother telling people their voting tactics are wrong. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Tempus_Fugit@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago (16 children) It has little to do with protection and more to do with keeping a clean conscience. I won't support evil. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 16 child comments load more comments (16 replies)
[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 11 points 5 months ago (2 children) If you can't solve the problem 100%, why even bother. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 1 point 5 months ago Just vote for trump. It’s all the same. permalink fedilink source parent [–] zbyte64@awful.systems 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) I don't think that's the criticism, rather we fixing the problem at the wrong end of things. We can't fix society by stressing personal responsibility, we need a different tactic. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) If the tactic doesn't benefit the person doing it at all, then they won't do it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] zbyte64@awful.systems 2 points 5 months ago Sure, and that's why I don't bother telling people their voting tactics are wrong. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 1 point 5 months ago Just vote for trump. It’s all the same. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) I don't think that's the criticism, rather we fixing the problem at the wrong end of things. We can't fix society by stressing personal responsibility, we need a different tactic. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) If the tactic doesn't benefit the person doing it at all, then they won't do it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] zbyte64@awful.systems 2 points 5 months ago Sure, and that's why I don't bother telling people their voting tactics are wrong. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) If the tactic doesn't benefit the person doing it at all, then they won't do it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] zbyte64@awful.systems 2 points 5 months ago Sure, and that's why I don't bother telling people their voting tactics are wrong. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 2 points 5 months ago Sure, and that's why I don't bother telling people their voting tactics are wrong. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tempus_Fugit@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago (16 children) It has little to do with protection and more to do with keeping a clean conscience. I won't support evil. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 16 child comments load more comments (16 replies)
[–] thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) The only one mentioned here that i have is WhatsApp, but i barely use it Although i do still use some other nonfree Amerikkkan services. Discord is the main one, i'm quite active on there and it's not that easy to replace because of its structure with communities (also there aren't good alternatives yet, quite hopeful for Fluxer tho). I also use an iPhone and Apple Messages, and i have a Macbook (which I don't use much at the moment) but I'm gonna install Linux on it. I don't make use of iCloud tho, i use Proton Drive and selfhosted email. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tempus_Fugit@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) I'm not trying to rib you here, but I hate that excuse that it's too hard to drop these products. We've lived thousands of years without them, but lack the will now? WTF kinda weak ass shit is that? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) I am not saying that it's hard to drop I'm saying that because of Discord's structure it's hard to move Discord communities to other platforms because you need to move a community of many people rather than just an account on which you post and view posts like when moving from Twitter to Mastodon or Reddit to Lemmy permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] Tempus_Fugit@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago (1 child) I'm not trying to rib you here, but I hate that excuse that it's too hard to drop these products. We've lived thousands of years without them, but lack the will now? WTF kinda weak ass shit is that? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) I am not saying that it's hard to drop I'm saying that because of Discord's structure it's hard to move Discord communities to other platforms because you need to move a community of many people rather than just an account on which you post and view posts like when moving from Twitter to Mastodon or Reddit to Lemmy permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) I am not saying that it's hard to drop I'm saying that because of Discord's structure it's hard to move Discord communities to other platforms because you need to move a community of many people rather than just an account on which you post and view posts like when moving from Twitter to Mastodon or Reddit to Lemmy permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)