▲ 805 ▼ Mamdani Threatens 9.5% Property Tax Increase if Wealth Tax Is Not Passed (www.nytimes.com) submitted 5 months ago by avidamoeba@lemmy.ca to c/news@lemmy.world 237 comments fedilink hide all child comments cross-posted from: https://sh.itjust.works/post/55502152
[–] homes@piefed.world 39 points 5 months ago (4 children) It’s a little bit misleading to refer to as any mayor of New York City as “just a mayor“. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Asafum@lemmy.world 75 points 5 months ago (1 child) It's just a tiny little financial capitol of the world with a measley population of only 8.4 million people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 44 points 5 months ago (1 child) Barely as large as Austria permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] discocactus@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago (1 child) And what did Austria ever achieve??? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago permalink fedilink source parent [–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 32 points 5 months ago (2 children) If NYC was a state it would be between the 11th and 12th most populous state. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] cecilkorik@piefed.ca 54 points 5 months ago (1 child) And California is the world's 4th largest economy, behind only the entire rest of the United States, China, and Germany. New York State would be 8th. The Democratic states and cities are economic and sociopolitical leaders for a reason. Don't listen to the bullshit calling them socialist hellholes. The evidence suggests that taking care of your people (and maybe even having illegal immigrants too gasp or better yet legal immigrants) is actually an economically sound, and maybe even economically preferable strategy overall. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] pennomi@lemmy.world 22 points 5 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago I agree that it would be better to make them legal however. I believe in free movement and commerce. 100% Nobody wants to be in this situation. The system simply doesn't allow for people to enter 'in the right way', as far as the vast majority of non-rich people around the world are concerned the US Border is closed unless you win a literal lottery. We clearly need these people and benefit from their presence both economically and culturally. Instead of creating an immigration system that reflects that reality, we have one that makes them live in the shadows and deal with exploitation because they cannot access normal public services, including the police, for fear of being arrested (possibly violently) and thrown in detention for an unspecified amount of time. It has to be different, and not in the ways that these white nationalists cosplaying as law enforcement are envisioning. permalink fedilink source parent [–] deadmyk@lemmy.world 29 points 5 months ago (2 children) I love when people say the us should get rid of CA. Yeah let’s just throw away the worlds 4th largest economy because you’re anti woke 🙄 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] pachrist@lemmy.world 19 points 5 months ago You can also casually remind people that more Republicans live in California than Texas, which usually makes their head explode. It's an enormous state, with a huge economy, with tons and tons of people. permalink fedilink source parent [–] homes@piefed.world 15 points 5 months ago (1 child) People like that are willing to do or say anything in order to get validation for their shitty beliefs permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FishFace@piefed.social 2 points 5 months ago I mean everyone has something they value more than economics... For some, those are bad values, but it's not unique. permalink fedilink source parent [–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago The population of NYC is larger than the combined population of the smallest 28 countries in the world. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago Second largest city in north america? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Asafum@lemmy.world 75 points 5 months ago (1 child) It's just a tiny little financial capitol of the world with a measley population of only 8.4 million people. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 44 points 5 months ago (1 child) Barely as large as Austria permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] discocactus@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago (1 child) And what did Austria ever achieve??? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago permalink fedilink source parent
[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 44 points 5 months ago (1 child) Barely as large as Austria permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] discocactus@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago (1 child) And what did Austria ever achieve??? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago permalink fedilink source parent
[–] discocactus@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago (1 child) And what did Austria ever achieve??? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 32 points 5 months ago (2 children) If NYC was a state it would be between the 11th and 12th most populous state. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] cecilkorik@piefed.ca 54 points 5 months ago (1 child) And California is the world's 4th largest economy, behind only the entire rest of the United States, China, and Germany. New York State would be 8th. The Democratic states and cities are economic and sociopolitical leaders for a reason. Don't listen to the bullshit calling them socialist hellholes. The evidence suggests that taking care of your people (and maybe even having illegal immigrants too gasp or better yet legal immigrants) is actually an economically sound, and maybe even economically preferable strategy overall. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] pennomi@lemmy.world 22 points 5 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago I agree that it would be better to make them legal however. I believe in free movement and commerce. 100% Nobody wants to be in this situation. The system simply doesn't allow for people to enter 'in the right way', as far as the vast majority of non-rich people around the world are concerned the US Border is closed unless you win a literal lottery. We clearly need these people and benefit from their presence both economically and culturally. Instead of creating an immigration system that reflects that reality, we have one that makes them live in the shadows and deal with exploitation because they cannot access normal public services, including the police, for fear of being arrested (possibly violently) and thrown in detention for an unspecified amount of time. It has to be different, and not in the ways that these white nationalists cosplaying as law enforcement are envisioning. permalink fedilink source parent [–] deadmyk@lemmy.world 29 points 5 months ago (2 children) I love when people say the us should get rid of CA. Yeah let’s just throw away the worlds 4th largest economy because you’re anti woke 🙄 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] pachrist@lemmy.world 19 points 5 months ago You can also casually remind people that more Republicans live in California than Texas, which usually makes their head explode. It's an enormous state, with a huge economy, with tons and tons of people. permalink fedilink source parent [–] homes@piefed.world 15 points 5 months ago (1 child) People like that are willing to do or say anything in order to get validation for their shitty beliefs permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FishFace@piefed.social 2 points 5 months ago I mean everyone has something they value more than economics... For some, those are bad values, but it's not unique. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cecilkorik@piefed.ca 54 points 5 months ago (1 child) And California is the world's 4th largest economy, behind only the entire rest of the United States, China, and Germany. New York State would be 8th. The Democratic states and cities are economic and sociopolitical leaders for a reason. Don't listen to the bullshit calling them socialist hellholes. The evidence suggests that taking care of your people (and maybe even having illegal immigrants too gasp or better yet legal immigrants) is actually an economically sound, and maybe even economically preferable strategy overall. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] pennomi@lemmy.world 22 points 5 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago I agree that it would be better to make them legal however. I believe in free movement and commerce. 100% Nobody wants to be in this situation. The system simply doesn't allow for people to enter 'in the right way', as far as the vast majority of non-rich people around the world are concerned the US Border is closed unless you win a literal lottery. We clearly need these people and benefit from their presence both economically and culturally. Instead of creating an immigration system that reflects that reality, we have one that makes them live in the shadows and deal with exploitation because they cannot access normal public services, including the police, for fear of being arrested (possibly violently) and thrown in detention for an unspecified amount of time. It has to be different, and not in the ways that these white nationalists cosplaying as law enforcement are envisioning. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] pennomi@lemmy.world 22 points 5 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago I agree that it would be better to make them legal however. I believe in free movement and commerce. 100% Nobody wants to be in this situation. The system simply doesn't allow for people to enter 'in the right way', as far as the vast majority of non-rich people around the world are concerned the US Border is closed unless you win a literal lottery. We clearly need these people and benefit from their presence both economically and culturally. Instead of creating an immigration system that reflects that reality, we have one that makes them live in the shadows and deal with exploitation because they cannot access normal public services, including the police, for fear of being arrested (possibly violently) and thrown in detention for an unspecified amount of time. It has to be different, and not in the ways that these white nationalists cosplaying as law enforcement are envisioning. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago I agree that it would be better to make them legal however. I believe in free movement and commerce. 100% Nobody wants to be in this situation. The system simply doesn't allow for people to enter 'in the right way', as far as the vast majority of non-rich people around the world are concerned the US Border is closed unless you win a literal lottery. We clearly need these people and benefit from their presence both economically and culturally. Instead of creating an immigration system that reflects that reality, we have one that makes them live in the shadows and deal with exploitation because they cannot access normal public services, including the police, for fear of being arrested (possibly violently) and thrown in detention for an unspecified amount of time. It has to be different, and not in the ways that these white nationalists cosplaying as law enforcement are envisioning. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] deadmyk@lemmy.world 29 points 5 months ago (2 children) I love when people say the us should get rid of CA. Yeah let’s just throw away the worlds 4th largest economy because you’re anti woke 🙄 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] pachrist@lemmy.world 19 points 5 months ago You can also casually remind people that more Republicans live in California than Texas, which usually makes their head explode. It's an enormous state, with a huge economy, with tons and tons of people. permalink fedilink source parent [–] homes@piefed.world 15 points 5 months ago (1 child) People like that are willing to do or say anything in order to get validation for their shitty beliefs permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FishFace@piefed.social 2 points 5 months ago I mean everyone has something they value more than economics... For some, those are bad values, but it's not unique. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pachrist@lemmy.world 19 points 5 months ago You can also casually remind people that more Republicans live in California than Texas, which usually makes their head explode. It's an enormous state, with a huge economy, with tons and tons of people. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] homes@piefed.world 15 points 5 months ago (1 child) People like that are willing to do or say anything in order to get validation for their shitty beliefs permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FishFace@piefed.social 2 points 5 months ago I mean everyone has something they value more than economics... For some, those are bad values, but it's not unique. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FishFace@piefed.social 2 points 5 months ago I mean everyone has something they value more than economics... For some, those are bad values, but it's not unique. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago The population of NYC is larger than the combined population of the smallest 28 countries in the world. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago Second largest city in north america? permalink fedilink source parent