▲ 313 ▼ Shots fired...good thing Storm Troppers can't hit anything (i.imgflip.com) submitted 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) by negativenull@piefed.world [M] to c/tenforward@lemmy.world 136 comments fedilink hide all child comments Edit: this is meant to be a shitpost. I don't care about your favorite series/universe. You do you.
[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 51 points 7 months ago (2 children) With exception of the scifi label and being well known they are not even comparable. permalink fedilink source hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] cattywampas@lemmy.world 39 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 child) I watch Star Wars for spaceships and laser sword fights. I watch Star Trek for courtroom episodes. (Although Andor is one of the best political dramas out there and must-see TV.) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 months ago (1 child) Yes to Andor, and before that Rouge One was the best thing to come out after the admittedly cheesy original 3 (before Lucas added all the lame animation over them). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] harmbugler@piefed.social 1 point 7 months ago Rogue One is a fine cherry on top of two seasons of Andor. permalink fedilink source parent [–] fartsparkles@lemmy.world 16 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children) Star Wars is an action/adventure/drama series that happens to be in space (they called it “space opera” for good reason). Star Trek is a science fiction series, at least until Fuller/Kurtzman (where it strayed more to action/adventure). You kind of have to bisect Star Trek into pre and post Roddenberry/Berman. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] homes@piefed.world 15 points 7 months ago (5 children) I think the best label for Star Wars is probably “Science Fantasy”. Personally, when it comes to this sort of differentiation, I draw the line at: is there magic? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] radix@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 child) Unpopular opinion of the day: "The Force" isn't any more magic than Betazoid telepathy, replicators, or transporters. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SatyrSack@quokk.au 19 points 7 months ago Not to mention permalink fedilink source parent [–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 8 points 7 months ago (1 child) Q is more "magical" than anything in Star Wars. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] homes@piefed.world 6 points 7 months ago (1 child) even in Trek, it's openly acknowledged that there must be a scientific explanation for Q, even if it's beyond humanity's current understanding. they also mention several times that any sufficiently advanced technology would appear to be magic to those who lack the ability to rationally explain it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 7 points 7 months ago (1 child) Star Wars tried for a scientific explanation for the Force, too, with midichlorians. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] homes@piefed.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 child) They tried, but it’s kind of bullshit and magic anyway permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 1 point 7 months ago Agreed, but so is Q. permalink fedilink source parent [–] sik0fewl@piefed.ca 6 points 7 months ago (1 child) It's not magic, it's midichlorians! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] verity_kindle@sh.itjust.works 5 points 7 months ago (1 child) It's not midichlorians, it's heroin. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hakunawazo@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 child) That explains much of the plot. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] verity_kindle@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 months ago Auralnauts Explains It All For You, via the life of Larry Bonjo Ben Kenobi. They tried to make him to go to Grievous's rehab and he said no no no permalink fedilink source parent [–] prettybunnys@piefed.social 6 points 7 months ago Yeah, Star Wars is a fantasy that is set in space. There are aspects of Sci-Fi but the galaxy often blurs the line between magic and technology. It has space opera elements, but Star Wars anymore is a setting rather than a story. permalink fedilink source parent [–] fartsparkles@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago That’s a great one. I’ll be using that! permalink fedilink source parent [–] CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 7 months ago (2 children) There's not much actual sience behind the technobabbel of Star Trek tbh. It's just as much of a magic system as the force is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] fartsparkles@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 child) Bormanis was given a hard task, to be fair. So many scripts just had (TECH) written where the writers needed help and Bormanis would have to shoehorn something in (and before Bormanis, the actors probably just made a lot of it up). Thankfully most of the science fiction isn’t in that technobabble but in the plot lines; questioning what it is to be human, to be civilised, and what meaning there is to life, post-scarcity. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] usernamefactory@lemmy.ca 2 points 7 months ago Thankfully most of the science fiction isn’t in that technobabble but in the plot lines; questioning what it is to be human, to be civilised, and what meaning their is to life, post-scarcity. This point needs more acknowledgement. Star Trek isn’t a sci-fi show because it does or doesn’t have magic, it’s because it tends to follow the genre conventions of a (very soft, pop) sci-fi show. Easy example, Star Wars doesn’t tend to focus on questions like “hey are these robots sentient? How could we know?” while Star Trek can’t stop litigating that issue. permalink fedilink source parent [–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 4 points 7 months ago It's the best technobabble, full stop. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cattywampas@lemmy.world 39 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 child) I watch Star Wars for spaceships and laser sword fights. I watch Star Trek for courtroom episodes. (Although Andor is one of the best political dramas out there and must-see TV.) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 months ago (1 child) Yes to Andor, and before that Rouge One was the best thing to come out after the admittedly cheesy original 3 (before Lucas added all the lame animation over them). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] harmbugler@piefed.social 1 point 7 months ago Rogue One is a fine cherry on top of two seasons of Andor. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 months ago (1 child) Yes to Andor, and before that Rouge One was the best thing to come out after the admittedly cheesy original 3 (before Lucas added all the lame animation over them). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] harmbugler@piefed.social 1 point 7 months ago Rogue One is a fine cherry on top of two seasons of Andor. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] harmbugler@piefed.social 1 point 7 months ago Rogue One is a fine cherry on top of two seasons of Andor. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] fartsparkles@lemmy.world 16 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children) Star Wars is an action/adventure/drama series that happens to be in space (they called it “space opera” for good reason). Star Trek is a science fiction series, at least until Fuller/Kurtzman (where it strayed more to action/adventure). You kind of have to bisect Star Trek into pre and post Roddenberry/Berman. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] homes@piefed.world 15 points 7 months ago (5 children) I think the best label for Star Wars is probably “Science Fantasy”. Personally, when it comes to this sort of differentiation, I draw the line at: is there magic? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] radix@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 child) Unpopular opinion of the day: "The Force" isn't any more magic than Betazoid telepathy, replicators, or transporters. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SatyrSack@quokk.au 19 points 7 months ago Not to mention permalink fedilink source parent [–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 8 points 7 months ago (1 child) Q is more "magical" than anything in Star Wars. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] homes@piefed.world 6 points 7 months ago (1 child) even in Trek, it's openly acknowledged that there must be a scientific explanation for Q, even if it's beyond humanity's current understanding. they also mention several times that any sufficiently advanced technology would appear to be magic to those who lack the ability to rationally explain it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 7 points 7 months ago (1 child) Star Wars tried for a scientific explanation for the Force, too, with midichlorians. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] homes@piefed.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 child) They tried, but it’s kind of bullshit and magic anyway permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 1 point 7 months ago Agreed, but so is Q. permalink fedilink source parent [–] sik0fewl@piefed.ca 6 points 7 months ago (1 child) It's not magic, it's midichlorians! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] verity_kindle@sh.itjust.works 5 points 7 months ago (1 child) It's not midichlorians, it's heroin. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hakunawazo@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 child) That explains much of the plot. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] verity_kindle@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 months ago Auralnauts Explains It All For You, via the life of Larry Bonjo Ben Kenobi. They tried to make him to go to Grievous's rehab and he said no no no permalink fedilink source parent [–] prettybunnys@piefed.social 6 points 7 months ago Yeah, Star Wars is a fantasy that is set in space. There are aspects of Sci-Fi but the galaxy often blurs the line between magic and technology. It has space opera elements, but Star Wars anymore is a setting rather than a story. permalink fedilink source parent [–] fartsparkles@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago That’s a great one. I’ll be using that! permalink fedilink source parent [–] CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 7 months ago (2 children) There's not much actual sience behind the technobabbel of Star Trek tbh. It's just as much of a magic system as the force is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] fartsparkles@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 child) Bormanis was given a hard task, to be fair. So many scripts just had (TECH) written where the writers needed help and Bormanis would have to shoehorn something in (and before Bormanis, the actors probably just made a lot of it up). Thankfully most of the science fiction isn’t in that technobabble but in the plot lines; questioning what it is to be human, to be civilised, and what meaning there is to life, post-scarcity. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] usernamefactory@lemmy.ca 2 points 7 months ago Thankfully most of the science fiction isn’t in that technobabble but in the plot lines; questioning what it is to be human, to be civilised, and what meaning their is to life, post-scarcity. This point needs more acknowledgement. Star Trek isn’t a sci-fi show because it does or doesn’t have magic, it’s because it tends to follow the genre conventions of a (very soft, pop) sci-fi show. Easy example, Star Wars doesn’t tend to focus on questions like “hey are these robots sentient? How could we know?” while Star Trek can’t stop litigating that issue. permalink fedilink source parent [–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 4 points 7 months ago It's the best technobabble, full stop. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] homes@piefed.world 15 points 7 months ago (5 children) I think the best label for Star Wars is probably “Science Fantasy”. Personally, when it comes to this sort of differentiation, I draw the line at: is there magic? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] radix@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 child) Unpopular opinion of the day: "The Force" isn't any more magic than Betazoid telepathy, replicators, or transporters. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SatyrSack@quokk.au 19 points 7 months ago Not to mention permalink fedilink source parent [–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 8 points 7 months ago (1 child) Q is more "magical" than anything in Star Wars. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] homes@piefed.world 6 points 7 months ago (1 child) even in Trek, it's openly acknowledged that there must be a scientific explanation for Q, even if it's beyond humanity's current understanding. they also mention several times that any sufficiently advanced technology would appear to be magic to those who lack the ability to rationally explain it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 7 points 7 months ago (1 child) Star Wars tried for a scientific explanation for the Force, too, with midichlorians. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] homes@piefed.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 child) They tried, but it’s kind of bullshit and magic anyway permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 1 point 7 months ago Agreed, but so is Q. permalink fedilink source parent [–] sik0fewl@piefed.ca 6 points 7 months ago (1 child) It's not magic, it's midichlorians! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] verity_kindle@sh.itjust.works 5 points 7 months ago (1 child) It's not midichlorians, it's heroin. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hakunawazo@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 child) That explains much of the plot. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] verity_kindle@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 months ago Auralnauts Explains It All For You, via the life of Larry Bonjo Ben Kenobi. They tried to make him to go to Grievous's rehab and he said no no no permalink fedilink source parent [–] prettybunnys@piefed.social 6 points 7 months ago Yeah, Star Wars is a fantasy that is set in space. There are aspects of Sci-Fi but the galaxy often blurs the line between magic and technology. It has space opera elements, but Star Wars anymore is a setting rather than a story. permalink fedilink source parent [–] fartsparkles@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago That’s a great one. I’ll be using that! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] radix@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 child) Unpopular opinion of the day: "The Force" isn't any more magic than Betazoid telepathy, replicators, or transporters. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SatyrSack@quokk.au 19 points 7 months ago Not to mention permalink fedilink source parent
[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 8 points 7 months ago (1 child) Q is more "magical" than anything in Star Wars. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] homes@piefed.world 6 points 7 months ago (1 child) even in Trek, it's openly acknowledged that there must be a scientific explanation for Q, even if it's beyond humanity's current understanding. they also mention several times that any sufficiently advanced technology would appear to be magic to those who lack the ability to rationally explain it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 7 points 7 months ago (1 child) Star Wars tried for a scientific explanation for the Force, too, with midichlorians. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] homes@piefed.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 child) They tried, but it’s kind of bullshit and magic anyway permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 1 point 7 months ago Agreed, but so is Q. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] homes@piefed.world 6 points 7 months ago (1 child) even in Trek, it's openly acknowledged that there must be a scientific explanation for Q, even if it's beyond humanity's current understanding. they also mention several times that any sufficiently advanced technology would appear to be magic to those who lack the ability to rationally explain it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 7 points 7 months ago (1 child) Star Wars tried for a scientific explanation for the Force, too, with midichlorians. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] homes@piefed.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 child) They tried, but it’s kind of bullshit and magic anyway permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 1 point 7 months ago Agreed, but so is Q. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 7 points 7 months ago (1 child) Star Wars tried for a scientific explanation for the Force, too, with midichlorians. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] homes@piefed.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 child) They tried, but it’s kind of bullshit and magic anyway permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 1 point 7 months ago Agreed, but so is Q. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] homes@piefed.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 child) They tried, but it’s kind of bullshit and magic anyway permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 1 point 7 months ago Agreed, but so is Q. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 1 point 7 months ago Agreed, but so is Q. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sik0fewl@piefed.ca 6 points 7 months ago (1 child) It's not magic, it's midichlorians! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] verity_kindle@sh.itjust.works 5 points 7 months ago (1 child) It's not midichlorians, it's heroin. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hakunawazo@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 child) That explains much of the plot. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] verity_kindle@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 months ago Auralnauts Explains It All For You, via the life of Larry Bonjo Ben Kenobi. They tried to make him to go to Grievous's rehab and he said no no no permalink fedilink source parent
[–] verity_kindle@sh.itjust.works 5 points 7 months ago (1 child) It's not midichlorians, it's heroin. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hakunawazo@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 child) That explains much of the plot. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] verity_kindle@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 months ago Auralnauts Explains It All For You, via the life of Larry Bonjo Ben Kenobi. They tried to make him to go to Grievous's rehab and he said no no no permalink fedilink source parent
[–] hakunawazo@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 child) That explains much of the plot. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] verity_kindle@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 months ago Auralnauts Explains It All For You, via the life of Larry Bonjo Ben Kenobi. They tried to make him to go to Grievous's rehab and he said no no no permalink fedilink source parent
[–] verity_kindle@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 months ago Auralnauts Explains It All For You, via the life of Larry Bonjo Ben Kenobi. They tried to make him to go to Grievous's rehab and he said no no no permalink fedilink source parent
[–] prettybunnys@piefed.social 6 points 7 months ago Yeah, Star Wars is a fantasy that is set in space. There are aspects of Sci-Fi but the galaxy often blurs the line between magic and technology. It has space opera elements, but Star Wars anymore is a setting rather than a story. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] fartsparkles@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago That’s a great one. I’ll be using that! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 7 months ago (2 children) There's not much actual sience behind the technobabbel of Star Trek tbh. It's just as much of a magic system as the force is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] fartsparkles@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 child) Bormanis was given a hard task, to be fair. So many scripts just had (TECH) written where the writers needed help and Bormanis would have to shoehorn something in (and before Bormanis, the actors probably just made a lot of it up). Thankfully most of the science fiction isn’t in that technobabble but in the plot lines; questioning what it is to be human, to be civilised, and what meaning there is to life, post-scarcity. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] usernamefactory@lemmy.ca 2 points 7 months ago Thankfully most of the science fiction isn’t in that technobabble but in the plot lines; questioning what it is to be human, to be civilised, and what meaning their is to life, post-scarcity. This point needs more acknowledgement. Star Trek isn’t a sci-fi show because it does or doesn’t have magic, it’s because it tends to follow the genre conventions of a (very soft, pop) sci-fi show. Easy example, Star Wars doesn’t tend to focus on questions like “hey are these robots sentient? How could we know?” while Star Trek can’t stop litigating that issue. permalink fedilink source parent [–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 4 points 7 months ago It's the best technobabble, full stop. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] fartsparkles@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 child) Bormanis was given a hard task, to be fair. So many scripts just had (TECH) written where the writers needed help and Bormanis would have to shoehorn something in (and before Bormanis, the actors probably just made a lot of it up). Thankfully most of the science fiction isn’t in that technobabble but in the plot lines; questioning what it is to be human, to be civilised, and what meaning there is to life, post-scarcity. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] usernamefactory@lemmy.ca 2 points 7 months ago Thankfully most of the science fiction isn’t in that technobabble but in the plot lines; questioning what it is to be human, to be civilised, and what meaning their is to life, post-scarcity. This point needs more acknowledgement. Star Trek isn’t a sci-fi show because it does or doesn’t have magic, it’s because it tends to follow the genre conventions of a (very soft, pop) sci-fi show. Easy example, Star Wars doesn’t tend to focus on questions like “hey are these robots sentient? How could we know?” while Star Trek can’t stop litigating that issue. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] usernamefactory@lemmy.ca 2 points 7 months ago Thankfully most of the science fiction isn’t in that technobabble but in the plot lines; questioning what it is to be human, to be civilised, and what meaning their is to life, post-scarcity. This point needs more acknowledgement. Star Trek isn’t a sci-fi show because it does or doesn’t have magic, it’s because it tends to follow the genre conventions of a (very soft, pop) sci-fi show. Easy example, Star Wars doesn’t tend to focus on questions like “hey are these robots sentient? How could we know?” while Star Trek can’t stop litigating that issue. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 4 points 7 months ago It's the best technobabble, full stop. permalink fedilink source parent
