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[–] Clent@lemmy.world 136 points 2 years ago (3 children) He's shifted further right over the past decade. During covid it became clear he had moved beyond right of center. Going against his own union is the final step in this journey. permalink fedilink source hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] charliespider@lemmy.world 54 points 2 years ago Yup, I used to enjoy the show, but now he's just a miserable old white guy yelling at shit permalink fedilink source parent [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world [S] 45 points 2 years ago (3 children) I'm not sure about that. I'm guessing the final step will be endorsing Trump. I won't be even remotely shocked when he does it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] GreatFord@lemm.ee 20 points 2 years ago (1 child) He seems like a Kennedy Jr. guy permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world [S] 17 points 2 years ago He's an anti-vaxxer too, so probably. permalink fedilink source parent [–] demlet@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) He constantly tries to get Republicans to disavow Trump on his show. He used his show to practically beg people to vote for Biden even if they didn't like him, just to get Trump out of office. People here may not like everything he does, I certainly don't, but the guy will never support Trump, I'm willing to state that unequivocally. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] moriabalrogs@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] littlecolt@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) He's a tribal Democrat. He would absolutely endorse Trump if he had a D by his name. Trump actually used to be a Democrat. He just switched to R because he is a conman and saw which party base could be conned more easily. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] moriabalrogs@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (2 children) That's actually not true. That was just a lie created. Check your facts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) "That's a lie! I'm not going to say which part, though." They made several assertions, simply saying "LIAR!" accomplishes exactly fuck all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] moriabalrogs@lemmy.world -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Sorry didn't think I had to say the main argument in his statement was what I was referring to. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago We know what you're referring to but you've done nothing to prove your position. What was the lie? Spell it out. What is the truth instead? permalink fedilink source parent [–] littlecolt@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) What are you talking about? Trump was a registered Democrat in the 2000's. He's switched part affiliation over and over based on what he thinks will work best for him optically. Now as for Maher, he's a typical old neoliberal. He may be pro-choice and also more for reforms like gun control and taxing the rich, but on many social issues he might as well be a Republican. I think he agrees with Trump's position on a whole host of issues. I think if Trump was a registered Democrat, we would be seeing a very different tone from Maher about him. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] moriabalrogs@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2018/dec/18/blog-posting/no-donald-trump-did-not-call-republican-voters-dum/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] littlecolt@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago What's this quote have to do with anything? I never said he said Republicans are dumb in the 90's. permalink fedilink source parent [+] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world -40 points 2 years ago (4 children) Lol, he's not even close to right of center. Yeah, he has a couple strange views like being anti bread, but he is definitely a liberal. We have to stop this purity test bullshit on the left. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Amaltheamannen@lemmy.ml 52 points 2 years ago (2 children) Liberals are right of center. America is almost the only place on the Earth where liberalism is considered left wing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Edgelord_Of_Tomorrow@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago* (1 child) In Australia our conservative party is called the Liberal Party. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jaybone@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago I wonder if these are people from outside of the US referring to what we call libertarians. But anyway, the “left” in the US is certainly no where near as left as the left in say European countries. permalink fedilink source parent [+] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world -10 points 2 years ago (3 children) I always hear this, but it doesn't make sense to me. To me it sounds like we define liberals differently. What specific stances make a liberal right of center? I would like to know we're defining the word the same way. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] JungleJim@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I've thought of it this way, a liberal is a master being giving liberally the treats they shower their workers with to keep them happy and productive. A leftist believes in the class consciousness struggle and that human rights are innate and not something handed down from masters. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) That wasn't anything specific at all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JungleJim@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Then Google it. I gave you an overview of the two political philosophies. It's not my job to educate you if you don't like the answers you get. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago You weren't even the person I was originally asking the question of. You went out of your way to give an answer that didn't answer my question, and then you get upset at me for what you did? permalink fedilink source parent [–] dustyData@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago They defend corporate rights instead of worker rights, as an example. permalink fedilink source parent [–] 4am@lemm.ee 11 points 2 years ago Endorsement of capitalism, for starters. permalink fedilink source parent [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world [S] 29 points 2 years ago (1 child) Being anti-union sounds pretty right wing to me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world -19 points 2 years ago (1 child) Being pro giving his employees a paycheck is not anti union. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world [S] 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah, and I'm sure that GM just want to give their employees a paycheck and are not anti-union either, right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago That's not even close to the same thing and you know that. permalink fedilink source parent [–] lobut@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) I haven't listened to him recently but his anti-woke stuff is unbearable to get through. That being said, he really defended Biden against Trump on the JRE podcast. At least from the clip I've seen, saying Trump is both crazy and stupid. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) He was also constantly asking anyone who would listen what we would do if Trump refused to step down. Everyone laughed at him, and then Trump incited an insurrection. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world [S] -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Everyone laughed at him Bullshit. Lots of people were saying that all the way back to 2016 when he called that election illegitimate. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Okay not literally everyone, but definitely the majority of his guests and definitely the politicians. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) A liberal bashing minorities? Come on. He’s left on some issues and right on others, but then again so is Bill O’Reilly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world -9 points 2 years ago (1 child) He doesn't bash minorities... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) He is openly anti-Arab to the point where he sided with Jewish extremists despite claiming to hate “all” religion. His black guests have called him out on his dumb stereotypical views and he used the N word on his show. Just because he claims to be a liberal doesn’t mean he gets a pass on genuine bigotry. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) He is anti Islam not anti Arab. That's an important distinction. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago He’s both. He wanted to ban Syrian refugees from the “West” by stating that “their cultures are not like ours.” He said “talk to anyone who ever dated an Arab, it’s not pretty.” That’s grossly racist, in addition to comments like they’re “bringing that desert stuff to our world,” and uncivilized. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] charliespider@lemmy.world 54 points 2 years ago Yup, I used to enjoy the show, but now he's just a miserable old white guy yelling at shit permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world [S] 45 points 2 years ago (3 children) I'm not sure about that. I'm guessing the final step will be endorsing Trump. I won't be even remotely shocked when he does it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] GreatFord@lemm.ee 20 points 2 years ago (1 child) He seems like a Kennedy Jr. guy permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world [S] 17 points 2 years ago He's an anti-vaxxer too, so probably. permalink fedilink source parent [–] demlet@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) He constantly tries to get Republicans to disavow Trump on his show. He used his show to practically beg people to vote for Biden even if they didn't like him, just to get Trump out of office. People here may not like everything he does, I certainly don't, but the guy will never support Trump, I'm willing to state that unequivocally. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] moriabalrogs@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] littlecolt@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) He's a tribal Democrat. He would absolutely endorse Trump if he had a D by his name. Trump actually used to be a Democrat. He just switched to R because he is a conman and saw which party base could be conned more easily. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] moriabalrogs@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (2 children) That's actually not true. That was just a lie created. Check your facts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) "That's a lie! I'm not going to say which part, though." They made several assertions, simply saying "LIAR!" accomplishes exactly fuck all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] moriabalrogs@lemmy.world -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Sorry didn't think I had to say the main argument in his statement was what I was referring to. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago We know what you're referring to but you've done nothing to prove your position. What was the lie? Spell it out. What is the truth instead? permalink fedilink source parent [–] littlecolt@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) What are you talking about? Trump was a registered Democrat in the 2000's. He's switched part affiliation over and over based on what he thinks will work best for him optically. Now as for Maher, he's a typical old neoliberal. He may be pro-choice and also more for reforms like gun control and taxing the rich, but on many social issues he might as well be a Republican. I think he agrees with Trump's position on a whole host of issues. I think if Trump was a registered Democrat, we would be seeing a very different tone from Maher about him. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] moriabalrogs@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2018/dec/18/blog-posting/no-donald-trump-did-not-call-republican-voters-dum/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] littlecolt@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago What's this quote have to do with anything? I never said he said Republicans are dumb in the 90's. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] GreatFord@lemm.ee 20 points 2 years ago (1 child) He seems like a Kennedy Jr. guy permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world [S] 17 points 2 years ago He's an anti-vaxxer too, so probably. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world [S] 17 points 2 years ago He's an anti-vaxxer too, so probably. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] demlet@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) He constantly tries to get Republicans to disavow Trump on his show. He used his show to practically beg people to vote for Biden even if they didn't like him, just to get Trump out of office. People here may not like everything he does, I certainly don't, but the guy will never support Trump, I'm willing to state that unequivocally. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] moriabalrogs@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] littlecolt@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) He's a tribal Democrat. He would absolutely endorse Trump if he had a D by his name. Trump actually used to be a Democrat. He just switched to R because he is a conman and saw which party base could be conned more easily. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] moriabalrogs@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (2 children) That's actually not true. That was just a lie created. Check your facts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) "That's a lie! I'm not going to say which part, though." They made several assertions, simply saying "LIAR!" accomplishes exactly fuck all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] moriabalrogs@lemmy.world -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Sorry didn't think I had to say the main argument in his statement was what I was referring to. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago We know what you're referring to but you've done nothing to prove your position. What was the lie? Spell it out. What is the truth instead? permalink fedilink source parent [–] littlecolt@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) What are you talking about? Trump was a registered Democrat in the 2000's. He's switched part affiliation over and over based on what he thinks will work best for him optically. Now as for Maher, he's a typical old neoliberal. He may be pro-choice and also more for reforms like gun control and taxing the rich, but on many social issues he might as well be a Republican. I think he agrees with Trump's position on a whole host of issues. I think if Trump was a registered Democrat, we would be seeing a very different tone from Maher about him. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] moriabalrogs@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2018/dec/18/blog-posting/no-donald-trump-did-not-call-republican-voters-dum/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] littlecolt@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago What's this quote have to do with anything? I never said he said Republicans are dumb in the 90's. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] moriabalrogs@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (2 children) That's actually not true. That was just a lie created. Check your facts. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) "That's a lie! I'm not going to say which part, though." They made several assertions, simply saying "LIAR!" accomplishes exactly fuck all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] moriabalrogs@lemmy.world -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Sorry didn't think I had to say the main argument in his statement was what I was referring to. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago We know what you're referring to but you've done nothing to prove your position. What was the lie? Spell it out. What is the truth instead? permalink fedilink source parent [–] littlecolt@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) What are you talking about? Trump was a registered Democrat in the 2000's. He's switched part affiliation over and over based on what he thinks will work best for him optically. Now as for Maher, he's a typical old neoliberal. He may be pro-choice and also more for reforms like gun control and taxing the rich, but on many social issues he might as well be a Republican. I think he agrees with Trump's position on a whole host of issues. I think if Trump was a registered Democrat, we would be seeing a very different tone from Maher about him. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] moriabalrogs@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2018/dec/18/blog-posting/no-donald-trump-did-not-call-republican-voters-dum/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] littlecolt@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago What's this quote have to do with anything? I never said he said Republicans are dumb in the 90's. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) "That's a lie! I'm not going to say which part, though." They made several assertions, simply saying "LIAR!" accomplishes exactly fuck all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] moriabalrogs@lemmy.world -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Sorry didn't think I had to say the main argument in his statement was what I was referring to. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago We know what you're referring to but you've done nothing to prove your position. What was the lie? Spell it out. What is the truth instead? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] moriabalrogs@lemmy.world -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) Sorry didn't think I had to say the main argument in his statement was what I was referring to. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago We know what you're referring to but you've done nothing to prove your position. What was the lie? Spell it out. What is the truth instead? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago We know what you're referring to but you've done nothing to prove your position. What was the lie? Spell it out. What is the truth instead? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] littlecolt@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) What are you talking about? Trump was a registered Democrat in the 2000's. He's switched part affiliation over and over based on what he thinks will work best for him optically. Now as for Maher, he's a typical old neoliberal. He may be pro-choice and also more for reforms like gun control and taxing the rich, but on many social issues he might as well be a Republican. I think he agrees with Trump's position on a whole host of issues. I think if Trump was a registered Democrat, we would be seeing a very different tone from Maher about him. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] moriabalrogs@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2018/dec/18/blog-posting/no-donald-trump-did-not-call-republican-voters-dum/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] littlecolt@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago What's this quote have to do with anything? I never said he said Republicans are dumb in the 90's. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] moriabalrogs@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago (1 child) https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2018/dec/18/blog-posting/no-donald-trump-did-not-call-republican-voters-dum/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] littlecolt@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago What's this quote have to do with anything? I never said he said Republicans are dumb in the 90's. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] littlecolt@lemm.ee 1 point 2 years ago What's this quote have to do with anything? I never said he said Republicans are dumb in the 90's. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world -40 points 2 years ago (4 children) Lol, he's not even close to right of center. Yeah, he has a couple strange views like being anti bread, but he is definitely a liberal. We have to stop this purity test bullshit on the left. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Amaltheamannen@lemmy.ml 52 points 2 years ago (2 children) Liberals are right of center. America is almost the only place on the Earth where liberalism is considered left wing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Edgelord_Of_Tomorrow@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago* (1 child) In Australia our conservative party is called the Liberal Party. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jaybone@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago I wonder if these are people from outside of the US referring to what we call libertarians. But anyway, the “left” in the US is certainly no where near as left as the left in say European countries. permalink fedilink source parent [+] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world -10 points 2 years ago (3 children) I always hear this, but it doesn't make sense to me. To me it sounds like we define liberals differently. What specific stances make a liberal right of center? I would like to know we're defining the word the same way. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] JungleJim@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I've thought of it this way, a liberal is a master being giving liberally the treats they shower their workers with to keep them happy and productive. A leftist believes in the class consciousness struggle and that human rights are innate and not something handed down from masters. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) That wasn't anything specific at all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JungleJim@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Then Google it. I gave you an overview of the two political philosophies. It's not my job to educate you if you don't like the answers you get. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago You weren't even the person I was originally asking the question of. You went out of your way to give an answer that didn't answer my question, and then you get upset at me for what you did? permalink fedilink source parent [–] dustyData@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago They defend corporate rights instead of worker rights, as an example. permalink fedilink source parent [–] 4am@lemm.ee 11 points 2 years ago Endorsement of capitalism, for starters. permalink fedilink source parent [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world [S] 29 points 2 years ago (1 child) Being anti-union sounds pretty right wing to me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world -19 points 2 years ago (1 child) Being pro giving his employees a paycheck is not anti union. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world [S] 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah, and I'm sure that GM just want to give their employees a paycheck and are not anti-union either, right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago That's not even close to the same thing and you know that. permalink fedilink source parent [–] lobut@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) I haven't listened to him recently but his anti-woke stuff is unbearable to get through. That being said, he really defended Biden against Trump on the JRE podcast. At least from the clip I've seen, saying Trump is both crazy and stupid. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) He was also constantly asking anyone who would listen what we would do if Trump refused to step down. Everyone laughed at him, and then Trump incited an insurrection. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world [S] -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Everyone laughed at him Bullshit. Lots of people were saying that all the way back to 2016 when he called that election illegitimate. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Okay not literally everyone, but definitely the majority of his guests and definitely the politicians. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) A liberal bashing minorities? Come on. He’s left on some issues and right on others, but then again so is Bill O’Reilly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world -9 points 2 years ago (1 child) He doesn't bash minorities... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) He is openly anti-Arab to the point where he sided with Jewish extremists despite claiming to hate “all” religion. His black guests have called him out on his dumb stereotypical views and he used the N word on his show. Just because he claims to be a liberal doesn’t mean he gets a pass on genuine bigotry. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) He is anti Islam not anti Arab. That's an important distinction. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago He’s both. He wanted to ban Syrian refugees from the “West” by stating that “their cultures are not like ours.” He said “talk to anyone who ever dated an Arab, it’s not pretty.” That’s grossly racist, in addition to comments like they’re “bringing that desert stuff to our world,” and uncivilized. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Amaltheamannen@lemmy.ml 52 points 2 years ago (2 children) Liberals are right of center. America is almost the only place on the Earth where liberalism is considered left wing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Edgelord_Of_Tomorrow@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago* (1 child) In Australia our conservative party is called the Liberal Party. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jaybone@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago I wonder if these are people from outside of the US referring to what we call libertarians. But anyway, the “left” in the US is certainly no where near as left as the left in say European countries. permalink fedilink source parent [+] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world -10 points 2 years ago (3 children) I always hear this, but it doesn't make sense to me. To me it sounds like we define liberals differently. What specific stances make a liberal right of center? I would like to know we're defining the word the same way. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] JungleJim@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I've thought of it this way, a liberal is a master being giving liberally the treats they shower their workers with to keep them happy and productive. A leftist believes in the class consciousness struggle and that human rights are innate and not something handed down from masters. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) That wasn't anything specific at all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JungleJim@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Then Google it. I gave you an overview of the two political philosophies. It's not my job to educate you if you don't like the answers you get. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago You weren't even the person I was originally asking the question of. You went out of your way to give an answer that didn't answer my question, and then you get upset at me for what you did? permalink fedilink source parent [–] dustyData@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago They defend corporate rights instead of worker rights, as an example. permalink fedilink source parent [–] 4am@lemm.ee 11 points 2 years ago Endorsement of capitalism, for starters. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Edgelord_Of_Tomorrow@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago* (1 child) In Australia our conservative party is called the Liberal Party. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jaybone@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago I wonder if these are people from outside of the US referring to what we call libertarians. But anyway, the “left” in the US is certainly no where near as left as the left in say European countries. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago I wonder if these are people from outside of the US referring to what we call libertarians. But anyway, the “left” in the US is certainly no where near as left as the left in say European countries. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world -10 points 2 years ago (3 children) I always hear this, but it doesn't make sense to me. To me it sounds like we define liberals differently. What specific stances make a liberal right of center? I would like to know we're defining the word the same way. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] JungleJim@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I've thought of it this way, a liberal is a master being giving liberally the treats they shower their workers with to keep them happy and productive. A leftist believes in the class consciousness struggle and that human rights are innate and not something handed down from masters. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) That wasn't anything specific at all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JungleJim@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Then Google it. I gave you an overview of the two political philosophies. It's not my job to educate you if you don't like the answers you get. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago You weren't even the person I was originally asking the question of. You went out of your way to give an answer that didn't answer my question, and then you get upset at me for what you did? permalink fedilink source parent [–] dustyData@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago They defend corporate rights instead of worker rights, as an example. permalink fedilink source parent [–] 4am@lemm.ee 11 points 2 years ago Endorsement of capitalism, for starters. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] JungleJim@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 years ago* (1 child) I've thought of it this way, a liberal is a master being giving liberally the treats they shower their workers with to keep them happy and productive. A leftist believes in the class consciousness struggle and that human rights are innate and not something handed down from masters. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) That wasn't anything specific at all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JungleJim@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Then Google it. I gave you an overview of the two political philosophies. It's not my job to educate you if you don't like the answers you get. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago You weren't even the person I was originally asking the question of. You went out of your way to give an answer that didn't answer my question, and then you get upset at me for what you did? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) That wasn't anything specific at all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JungleJim@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Then Google it. I gave you an overview of the two political philosophies. It's not my job to educate you if you don't like the answers you get. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago You weren't even the person I was originally asking the question of. You went out of your way to give an answer that didn't answer my question, and then you get upset at me for what you did? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] JungleJim@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) Then Google it. I gave you an overview of the two political philosophies. It's not my job to educate you if you don't like the answers you get. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago You weren't even the person I was originally asking the question of. You went out of your way to give an answer that didn't answer my question, and then you get upset at me for what you did? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago You weren't even the person I was originally asking the question of. You went out of your way to give an answer that didn't answer my question, and then you get upset at me for what you did? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago They defend corporate rights instead of worker rights, as an example. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 4am@lemm.ee 11 points 2 years ago Endorsement of capitalism, for starters. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world [S] 29 points 2 years ago (1 child) Being anti-union sounds pretty right wing to me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world -19 points 2 years ago (1 child) Being pro giving his employees a paycheck is not anti union. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world [S] 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah, and I'm sure that GM just want to give their employees a paycheck and are not anti-union either, right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago That's not even close to the same thing and you know that. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world -19 points 2 years ago (1 child) Being pro giving his employees a paycheck is not anti union. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world [S] 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah, and I'm sure that GM just want to give their employees a paycheck and are not anti-union either, right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago That's not even close to the same thing and you know that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world [S] 7 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah, and I'm sure that GM just want to give their employees a paycheck and are not anti-union either, right? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago That's not even close to the same thing and you know that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago That's not even close to the same thing and you know that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lobut@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) I haven't listened to him recently but his anti-woke stuff is unbearable to get through. That being said, he really defended Biden against Trump on the JRE podcast. At least from the clip I've seen, saying Trump is both crazy and stupid. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) He was also constantly asking anyone who would listen what we would do if Trump refused to step down. Everyone laughed at him, and then Trump incited an insurrection. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world [S] -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Everyone laughed at him Bullshit. Lots of people were saying that all the way back to 2016 when he called that election illegitimate. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Okay not literally everyone, but definitely the majority of his guests and definitely the politicians. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 child) He was also constantly asking anyone who would listen what we would do if Trump refused to step down. Everyone laughed at him, and then Trump incited an insurrection. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world [S] -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Everyone laughed at him Bullshit. Lots of people were saying that all the way back to 2016 when he called that election illegitimate. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Okay not literally everyone, but definitely the majority of his guests and definitely the politicians. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world [S] -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) Everyone laughed at him Bullshit. Lots of people were saying that all the way back to 2016 when he called that election illegitimate. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Okay not literally everyone, but definitely the majority of his guests and definitely the politicians. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago Okay not literally everyone, but definitely the majority of his guests and definitely the politicians. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 child) A liberal bashing minorities? Come on. He’s left on some issues and right on others, but then again so is Bill O’Reilly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world -9 points 2 years ago (1 child) He doesn't bash minorities... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) He is openly anti-Arab to the point where he sided with Jewish extremists despite claiming to hate “all” religion. His black guests have called him out on his dumb stereotypical views and he used the N word on his show. Just because he claims to be a liberal doesn’t mean he gets a pass on genuine bigotry. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) He is anti Islam not anti Arab. That's an important distinction. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago He’s both. He wanted to ban Syrian refugees from the “West” by stating that “their cultures are not like ours.” He said “talk to anyone who ever dated an Arab, it’s not pretty.” That’s grossly racist, in addition to comments like they’re “bringing that desert stuff to our world,” and uncivilized. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world -9 points 2 years ago (1 child) He doesn't bash minorities... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) He is openly anti-Arab to the point where he sided with Jewish extremists despite claiming to hate “all” religion. His black guests have called him out on his dumb stereotypical views and he used the N word on his show. Just because he claims to be a liberal doesn’t mean he gets a pass on genuine bigotry. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) He is anti Islam not anti Arab. That's an important distinction. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago He’s both. He wanted to ban Syrian refugees from the “West” by stating that “their cultures are not like ours.” He said “talk to anyone who ever dated an Arab, it’s not pretty.” That’s grossly racist, in addition to comments like they’re “bringing that desert stuff to our world,” and uncivilized. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) He is openly anti-Arab to the point where he sided with Jewish extremists despite claiming to hate “all” religion. His black guests have called him out on his dumb stereotypical views and he used the N word on his show. Just because he claims to be a liberal doesn’t mean he gets a pass on genuine bigotry. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) He is anti Islam not anti Arab. That's an important distinction. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago He’s both. He wanted to ban Syrian refugees from the “West” by stating that “their cultures are not like ours.” He said “talk to anyone who ever dated an Arab, it’s not pretty.” That’s grossly racist, in addition to comments like they’re “bringing that desert stuff to our world,” and uncivilized. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 child) He is anti Islam not anti Arab. That's an important distinction. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago He’s both. He wanted to ban Syrian refugees from the “West” by stating that “their cultures are not like ours.” He said “talk to anyone who ever dated an Arab, it’s not pretty.” That’s grossly racist, in addition to comments like they’re “bringing that desert stuff to our world,” and uncivilized. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago He’s both. He wanted to ban Syrian refugees from the “West” by stating that “their cultures are not like ours.” He said “talk to anyone who ever dated an Arab, it’s not pretty.” That’s grossly racist, in addition to comments like they’re “bringing that desert stuff to our world,” and uncivilized. permalink fedilink source parent