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[+] huppakee@lemm.ee -7 points 1 year ago (2 children) Are there any federated email providers then? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [โ] gnufuu@infosec.pub 21 points 1 year ago (1 child) Email is a federated protocol. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] hoppygarden@feddit.org -5 points 1 year ago (1 child) at the host level yes, but not at the user level permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] neons@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) What is that even supposed to mean? Yes it is, there are different people using email? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] hoppygarden@feddit.org -1 points 1 year ago* (1 child) What I meant is: you cannot switch a specific email from one provider to another. Only option is for you to change your email address. Compare that to say mobile phone numbers: there you have the option to keep your number when switching providers. Portability of email is what's missing. edit: typo permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] brrt@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) You totally can. Get your own domain and combine it with whichever email provider you like. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] hoppygarden@feddit.org 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) right, I forgot to mention this option. Indeed a possibility it requies some technical knowledge and is not something many people do, probably less than 1% compare that to phone number portability is available automatically to everyone (perhaps dependent on juristriction) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] brrt@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Ok, I agree with that. But it doesnโt work like that for other decentralized solutions either afaik. If you move from one instance in the Fediverse to another you will not retain your username@instance So whatโs the difference for the user? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] hoppygarden@feddit.org -1 points 1 year ago it works similar, yes. I just wanted to note that fediverse could be even more useful if it had the portability built in. ps: for mobile it's called MNP : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_number_portability permalink fedilink source parent [โ] kcweller@feddit.nl 18 points 1 year ago Email is THE federated system that is widespread in its use. Hosting a mail server at a host you trust or hosting it yourself has always been possible. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] gnufuu@infosec.pub 21 points 1 year ago (1 child) Email is a federated protocol. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] hoppygarden@feddit.org -5 points 1 year ago (1 child) at the host level yes, but not at the user level permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] neons@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) What is that even supposed to mean? Yes it is, there are different people using email? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] hoppygarden@feddit.org -1 points 1 year ago* (1 child) What I meant is: you cannot switch a specific email from one provider to another. Only option is for you to change your email address. Compare that to say mobile phone numbers: there you have the option to keep your number when switching providers. Portability of email is what's missing. edit: typo permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] brrt@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) You totally can. Get your own domain and combine it with whichever email provider you like. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] hoppygarden@feddit.org 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) right, I forgot to mention this option. Indeed a possibility it requies some technical knowledge and is not something many people do, probably less than 1% compare that to phone number portability is available automatically to everyone (perhaps dependent on juristriction) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] brrt@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Ok, I agree with that. But it doesnโt work like that for other decentralized solutions either afaik. If you move from one instance in the Fediverse to another you will not retain your username@instance So whatโs the difference for the user? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] hoppygarden@feddit.org -1 points 1 year ago it works similar, yes. I just wanted to note that fediverse could be even more useful if it had the portability built in. ps: for mobile it's called MNP : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_number_portability permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] hoppygarden@feddit.org -5 points 1 year ago (1 child) at the host level yes, but not at the user level permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] neons@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) What is that even supposed to mean? Yes it is, there are different people using email? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] hoppygarden@feddit.org -1 points 1 year ago* (1 child) What I meant is: you cannot switch a specific email from one provider to another. Only option is for you to change your email address. Compare that to say mobile phone numbers: there you have the option to keep your number when switching providers. Portability of email is what's missing. edit: typo permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] brrt@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) You totally can. Get your own domain and combine it with whichever email provider you like. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] hoppygarden@feddit.org 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) right, I forgot to mention this option. Indeed a possibility it requies some technical knowledge and is not something many people do, probably less than 1% compare that to phone number portability is available automatically to everyone (perhaps dependent on juristriction) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] brrt@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Ok, I agree with that. But it doesnโt work like that for other decentralized solutions either afaik. If you move from one instance in the Fediverse to another you will not retain your username@instance So whatโs the difference for the user? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] hoppygarden@feddit.org -1 points 1 year ago it works similar, yes. I just wanted to note that fediverse could be even more useful if it had the portability built in. ps: for mobile it's called MNP : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_number_portability permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] neons@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) What is that even supposed to mean? Yes it is, there are different people using email? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] hoppygarden@feddit.org -1 points 1 year ago* (1 child) What I meant is: you cannot switch a specific email from one provider to another. Only option is for you to change your email address. Compare that to say mobile phone numbers: there you have the option to keep your number when switching providers. Portability of email is what's missing. edit: typo permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] brrt@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) You totally can. Get your own domain and combine it with whichever email provider you like. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] hoppygarden@feddit.org 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) right, I forgot to mention this option. Indeed a possibility it requies some technical knowledge and is not something many people do, probably less than 1% compare that to phone number portability is available automatically to everyone (perhaps dependent on juristriction) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] brrt@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Ok, I agree with that. But it doesnโt work like that for other decentralized solutions either afaik. If you move from one instance in the Fediverse to another you will not retain your username@instance So whatโs the difference for the user? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] hoppygarden@feddit.org -1 points 1 year ago it works similar, yes. I just wanted to note that fediverse could be even more useful if it had the portability built in. ps: for mobile it's called MNP : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_number_portability permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] hoppygarden@feddit.org -1 points 1 year ago* (1 child) What I meant is: you cannot switch a specific email from one provider to another. Only option is for you to change your email address. Compare that to say mobile phone numbers: there you have the option to keep your number when switching providers. Portability of email is what's missing. edit: typo permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] brrt@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) You totally can. Get your own domain and combine it with whichever email provider you like. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] hoppygarden@feddit.org 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) right, I forgot to mention this option. Indeed a possibility it requies some technical knowledge and is not something many people do, probably less than 1% compare that to phone number portability is available automatically to everyone (perhaps dependent on juristriction) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] brrt@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Ok, I agree with that. But it doesnโt work like that for other decentralized solutions either afaik. If you move from one instance in the Fediverse to another you will not retain your username@instance So whatโs the difference for the user? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] hoppygarden@feddit.org -1 points 1 year ago it works similar, yes. I just wanted to note that fediverse could be even more useful if it had the portability built in. ps: for mobile it's called MNP : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_number_portability permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] brrt@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) You totally can. Get your own domain and combine it with whichever email provider you like. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] hoppygarden@feddit.org 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) right, I forgot to mention this option. Indeed a possibility it requies some technical knowledge and is not something many people do, probably less than 1% compare that to phone number portability is available automatically to everyone (perhaps dependent on juristriction) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] brrt@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Ok, I agree with that. But it doesnโt work like that for other decentralized solutions either afaik. If you move from one instance in the Fediverse to another you will not retain your username@instance So whatโs the difference for the user? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] hoppygarden@feddit.org -1 points 1 year ago it works similar, yes. I just wanted to note that fediverse could be even more useful if it had the portability built in. ps: for mobile it's called MNP : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_number_portability permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] hoppygarden@feddit.org 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) right, I forgot to mention this option. Indeed a possibility it requies some technical knowledge and is not something many people do, probably less than 1% compare that to phone number portability is available automatically to everyone (perhaps dependent on juristriction) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] brrt@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Ok, I agree with that. But it doesnโt work like that for other decentralized solutions either afaik. If you move from one instance in the Fediverse to another you will not retain your username@instance So whatโs the difference for the user? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] hoppygarden@feddit.org -1 points 1 year ago it works similar, yes. I just wanted to note that fediverse could be even more useful if it had the portability built in. ps: for mobile it's called MNP : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_number_portability permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] brrt@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Ok, I agree with that. But it doesnโt work like that for other decentralized solutions either afaik. If you move from one instance in the Fediverse to another you will not retain your username@instance So whatโs the difference for the user? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] hoppygarden@feddit.org -1 points 1 year ago it works similar, yes. I just wanted to note that fediverse could be even more useful if it had the portability built in. ps: for mobile it's called MNP : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_number_portability permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] hoppygarden@feddit.org -1 points 1 year ago it works similar, yes. I just wanted to note that fediverse could be even more useful if it had the portability built in. ps: for mobile it's called MNP : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_number_portability permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] kcweller@feddit.nl 18 points 1 year ago Email is THE federated system that is widespread in its use. Hosting a mail server at a host you trust or hosting it yourself has always been possible. permalink fedilink source parent