โฒ 38 โผ Messanger / Signal / Whatsup Alternative (lemmy.world) submitted 1 year ago by Bondar@lemmy.world to c/buyeuropean@feddit.uk 86 comments fedilink hide all child comments Is anyone here aware of some alternatives to mentioned instant messaging applications ? Alot of people keep mentioning Signal , however since it is US based I am not going to entertain it as a possibility.
[+] Earflap@reddthat.com 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [โ] adbenitez@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) It is a us based non profit that doesnโt store any information about you still it runs in AWS, Microsoft, etc servers, and as any centralized service policy and interests can change at any time in the future, which would be pretty bad when you have several countries fully depending on them, just look the current situation with whatsapp, you can not be resilient/sovereign like that has been independently audited like four times. could you provide source pointing to the security audits? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Earflap@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [โ] adbenitez@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago Matrix isnโt ready for the general public and Iโm doubtful it ever will be, so in the meantime Signal is the next best thing. yeah, it is too complex etc. take a look at https://arcanechat.me/ and https://delta.chat/ (I contribute to these open source projects) they are probably the decentralized messengers that are more on pair with WhatsApp etc. super easy to use, no phone numbers or any private data required Not me, but someone on the signal forums helpfully compiled many of them thanks for sharing! permalink fedilink source parent [โ] adbenitez@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago Not me, but someone on the signal forums helpfully compiled many of them; there are a lot more than I thought! https://community.signalusers.org/t/wiki-overview-of-third-party-security-audits/13243 ok I read it, these are no real security audits but academic reviews of protocol properties etc. permalink fedilink source parent [โ] Bondar@lemmy.world [S] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) That is a good take. However I could instead support European company with european people which is not to be neglected permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Earflap@reddthat.com 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] Bondar@lemmy.world [S] 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) https://therecord.media/signal-no-longer-cooperating-with-ukraine. Do i need to say more? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Earflap@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [โ] Bondar@lemmy.world [S] 0 points 1 year ago https://therecord.media/signal-no-longer-cooperating-with-ukraine. Do i need to say more? permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] adbenitez@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) It is a us based non profit that doesnโt store any information about you still it runs in AWS, Microsoft, etc servers, and as any centralized service policy and interests can change at any time in the future, which would be pretty bad when you have several countries fully depending on them, just look the current situation with whatsapp, you can not be resilient/sovereign like that has been independently audited like four times. could you provide source pointing to the security audits? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Earflap@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [โ] adbenitez@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago Matrix isnโt ready for the general public and Iโm doubtful it ever will be, so in the meantime Signal is the next best thing. yeah, it is too complex etc. take a look at https://arcanechat.me/ and https://delta.chat/ (I contribute to these open source projects) they are probably the decentralized messengers that are more on pair with WhatsApp etc. super easy to use, no phone numbers or any private data required Not me, but someone on the signal forums helpfully compiled many of them thanks for sharing! permalink fedilink source parent [โ] adbenitez@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago Not me, but someone on the signal forums helpfully compiled many of them; there are a lot more than I thought! https://community.signalusers.org/t/wiki-overview-of-third-party-security-audits/13243 ok I read it, these are no real security audits but academic reviews of protocol properties etc. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Earflap@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [โ] adbenitez@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago Matrix isnโt ready for the general public and Iโm doubtful it ever will be, so in the meantime Signal is the next best thing. yeah, it is too complex etc. take a look at https://arcanechat.me/ and https://delta.chat/ (I contribute to these open source projects) they are probably the decentralized messengers that are more on pair with WhatsApp etc. super easy to use, no phone numbers or any private data required Not me, but someone on the signal forums helpfully compiled many of them thanks for sharing! permalink fedilink source parent [โ] adbenitez@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago Not me, but someone on the signal forums helpfully compiled many of them; there are a lot more than I thought! https://community.signalusers.org/t/wiki-overview-of-third-party-security-audits/13243 ok I read it, these are no real security audits but academic reviews of protocol properties etc. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] adbenitez@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago Matrix isnโt ready for the general public and Iโm doubtful it ever will be, so in the meantime Signal is the next best thing. yeah, it is too complex etc. take a look at https://arcanechat.me/ and https://delta.chat/ (I contribute to these open source projects) they are probably the decentralized messengers that are more on pair with WhatsApp etc. super easy to use, no phone numbers or any private data required Not me, but someone on the signal forums helpfully compiled many of them thanks for sharing! permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] adbenitez@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago Not me, but someone on the signal forums helpfully compiled many of them; there are a lot more than I thought! https://community.signalusers.org/t/wiki-overview-of-third-party-security-audits/13243 ok I read it, these are no real security audits but academic reviews of protocol properties etc. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] Bondar@lemmy.world [S] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) That is a good take. However I could instead support European company with european people which is not to be neglected permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Earflap@reddthat.com 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] Bondar@lemmy.world [S] 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) https://therecord.media/signal-no-longer-cooperating-with-ukraine. Do i need to say more? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Earflap@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Earflap@reddthat.com 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] Bondar@lemmy.world [S] 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) https://therecord.media/signal-no-longer-cooperating-with-ukraine. Do i need to say more? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Earflap@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] Bondar@lemmy.world [S] 0 points 1 year ago (1 child) https://therecord.media/signal-no-longer-cooperating-with-ukraine. Do i need to say more? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Earflap@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
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[โ] Bondar@lemmy.world [S] 0 points 1 year ago https://therecord.media/signal-no-longer-cooperating-with-ukraine. Do i need to say more? permalink fedilink source parent