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Messanger / Signal / Whatsup Alternative (lemmy.world)
submitted 1 year ago by to c/buyeuropean@feddit.uk
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Is anyone here aware of some alternatives to mentioned instant messaging applications ? Alot of people keep mentioning Signal , however since it is US based I am not going to entertain it as a possibility.

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[โ€“] [S] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

well .. US based.

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  • [โ€“] 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    It's serverless though, right? The messages aren't stored in any of signal's servers? Or am I mistaken?

    It's also open source, so it would be possible just to fork and use a "European" version of it. Also, since it's open source, it's free to use, so no money actually goes to on American company by using it.

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  • [โ€“] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Itโ€™s serverless though, right?

    no, and in fact the cost of running it is really high because the server infrastructure they need to pay, they even say it themselves "Signal is expensive" https://signal.org/blog/signal-is-expensive/

    it would be possible just to fork and use a โ€œEuropeanโ€ version of it

    in theory yes, in practice no one has done it, and then you should not use Signal but the european fork which will not be compatible/federated with signal

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  • [โ€“] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    It is a us based non profit that doesnโ€™t store any information about you

    still it runs in AWS, Microsoft, etc servers, and as any centralized service policy and interests can change at any time in the future, which would be pretty bad when you have several countries fully depending on them, just look the current situation with whatsapp, you can not be resilient/sovereign like that

    has been independently audited like four times.

    could you provide source pointing to the security audits?

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  • [โ€“] 2 points 1 year ago

    Matrix isnโ€™t ready for the general public and Iโ€™m doubtful it ever will be, so in the meantime Signal is the next best thing.

    yeah, it is too complex etc. take a look at https://arcanechat.me/ and https://delta.chat/ (I contribute to these open source projects) they are probably the decentralized messengers that are more on pair with WhatsApp etc. super easy to use, no phone numbers or any private data required

    Not me, but someone on the signal forums helpfully compiled many of them

    thanks for sharing!

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  • [โ€“] [S] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    That is a good take. However I could instead support European company with european people which is not to be neglected

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