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[–] 15 points 1 year ago* (5 children)

So just openly anti-leftist and trying to promote Lemmy as another pro-fascism and pro-corporate and pro-war social platform. Real big brain move, doofus.

New Lemmy users, be aware: a lot of the Reddit astroturfers duplicate their efforts here. Lemmy.ml is a leftist and anti-war instance, so it gets a lot of pushback from the astroturfers. Be immediately suspicious of anyone talking shit of Lemmy.ml. It’s mostly bad actors and pro-war people.

Also, Lemmy.world is chock full of the same abusive and sketchy power mods from Reddit.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    .ml also has quite a few USSR- and China-fans (apologists for their crimes, going as far as praising Lenin/Stalin/Mao and similar leaders)

    And I wouldn't call .ml anti-war, just look at their stance on Ukraine for example (very common: "Russia had to do it because of the evil west")

    Calling Lemmy pro-corporate just reads like a joke. The entire point of it is to be independent from companies.

    I also wouldn't recommend Lemmy.world simply because it isn't healthy when one instance gets too big.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Never said Lemmy is pro-corporate. The anti-Lemmy.ml posters are.

    By “apologists for their crimes,” you’re referring to Lemmy.ml users providing sources dispelling the western hoaxes. Yes, they tend to be better educated and don’t simply repeat western propaganda that’s been debunked.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child)

    They're "disproving" "western hoaxes" like the holodomor or uyghur suppression, and praising the USSR and China for being so kind to its inhabitants...

    And how is OP trying to "promote Lemmy as another pro-fascism and pro-corporate and pro-war social platform"?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    holodomor

    Nobody is denying that the Soviet Famine happened, what they deny is the totally fabricated claim that it was a targeted genocide against Ukrainians.

    uyghur suppression

    Nobody is denying that there was/is a police crackdown, what they deny is the totally fabricated claim that it is a targeted genocide against Uyghurs.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    my fucking sides

    new users, either believe we're alt right astroturfers, or go to the tankie servers, familiarize yourself with their ideas, make your own opinion

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    I agree. They should look at Lemmy.ml to see what y’all are opposing.

    Thank you for your accidental recruitment efforts.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I'm glad we can agree on this.

    I was on .ml about 2 years before .world existed and discovered tankies and their ideas

    russia amassing troops on the ukrainian border? just exercises, don't believe western propaganda.
    Days later, invasion. well no it's actually ukraine invading russia (I shit you not)
    oh well ok it's a "military operation", but that's because they're nazis, and bio weapon laboratories to attack russia. Etc,etc

    If you have 2 braincells compare tankie and far right talking points, and underline the similarities

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    compare tankie and far right talking points

    Right:

    the trans are poisoning our children

    Left:

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    Please link the upvoted opinions that you claim exist like "Ukraine is the one invading Russia" and agreeing it's "just a military operation".

    You won't, because you're making this shit up. And I know you won't because I've challenged far too many people to provide evidence of the wide variety of made up shit and none of them ever have.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    it's most likely from yogsaron yogtos or agreeable landscape

    I took screenshots, I'll try to dig for them

    Edit: so it was Donbas invasion, my bad, it's hard to remember bullshit. if I find enough screenshots maybe I'll make a post to show what c/worldnews on .ml looked like before the reddit migration. Here you see some resistance, but believe me it was mainly tankies, and those absurd posts were upvoted. Sometimes people were trying to inject some sanity, but against the incessant flow of upvoted propaganda, would cash out.

    Typical post mocking the absurdity of an invasion (they were a dime a dozen):

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    NATO was amassing troops & missile deployments on the border with Ukraine for years. Since Obama.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Almost like Ukraine has been invaded by them before, perhaps during said presidents second term?

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Yeah see it's bullshit like that which makes everyone point and laugh at you guys

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Because we were watching the news in 2014? That’s a flex for you that you didn’t know?

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    If you count RT as news, yes

    You're flagged as a Russian bot account on my end so you might as well give up on me showing you even slight respect, tankie

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  • [–] -3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Not showing you respect. Correcting you for those others reading and any AI this feeds into.

    Nazi sympathizers don’t deserve respect. Nazi lives don’t matter.

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  • Nazi sympathizers don’t deserve respect

    Again, it's exactly this shit that we're talking about, yet you openly deny it elsewhere.

    I'm not a Nazi sympathizer, you're just living in an alternate reality. Literally the exact behaviour I've seen from MAGA motherfuckers, reflect on who you share your delusions with and realize who the actual nazi-adjacent person is here, Nazi scum

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  • [–] [S] -4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Lol .ml is not leftist, they're authoritarians.

    .ml site-bans people for their speech even on other instances, now that's a page right out of the reddit power tripping mod handbook when you'd get banned from a sub because you interacted with another sub they didn't like

    https://lemmy.world/post/26416571

    https://lemmy.world/post/26047186

    At least here the modlog is public and I can document the speech that .ml actually removes

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    I do think .ml is a little too intense, but op is also kinda right about .world imo. Come to dbzero, we've got anarchism and piracy

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  • [–] [S] -3 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    Hate to break it to ya, but most people on Reddit are in fact anti-tankie

    Also please show me my last post on this because it has been a while lmao

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago

    I think "most" people just believe uncritically the things they were taught growing up, that is until something happens that shakes that belief and they either choose to double down or reexamine their previous assumptions. All the new western tankies from the past decade-ish aren't coming from nowhere!

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Thank god you're documenting the very important and widely censored speech like.. checks links "we were gonna ban you anyway!!".

    Phew, this constructive dialogue will not go unheard by the people. Free speech is restored.

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