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[–] 227 points 2 years ago* (12 children)

FYI - the owner of this site, gamingonlinux, was a mod on the !linux_gaming@lemmy.ml community until they were caught abusing their moderator powers. Then they deleted their account and complained on mastodon that it's stupid design that mod logs are public.

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  • [–] 73 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    I’m boosting this and the screenshots too, but just thought I’d point out for quick scrollers that it does not seem as dramatic as this comment initially lets you believe.

    I mean it’s awkward, but just seems more like your usual social awkwardness/incompetence than malicious behavior as such.

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  • [–] 30 points 2 years ago

    I agree that the main interaction was mild, but if they were willing to go this far to try to hide this, then that shows how low the bar is for them to try to manipulate things to their favor and liking with the trust that was given them as a moderator.

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  • [–] 18 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Do you have any sources for this?

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  • [–] 69 points 2 years ago* (7 children)

    Deleted comment:

    I called them out for not following their own community rules:

    Please be nice to other members. Anyone not being nice will be banned. Keep it fun, respectful and just be awesome to each other.

    and they deleted their account.

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  • [–] 27 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (19 children)

    What was wrong with them removing your comment? You were being annoying 🤷‍♂️

    Their response seemed perfectly measured to someone being needlessly pedantic.

    Edit: And also Shuts down? Did you miss the 'down'? Was the title edited after the fact? What does the rest of that modlog say? The screenshot is cropped.

    My perspective is you were being annoying, got downvoted/called out, feigned shock, got your comments removed, and now you're on a bitter smear campaign.

    This is the weakest accusation of mod abuse I've seen. Good grief.

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  • [–] 19 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Thanks! Not quite as wild as I was expecting (kind of surprised this was enough to push them to delete their account)

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  • [–] 19 points 2 years ago*

    Mod abuse is mod abuse, regardless of the level. They clearly felt embarrassed for needlessly being mean and getting caught for it after trying to hide the fact.

    Then they tried to excuse it on their mastodon.

    If they're willing to go through all that for something so minor, they would absolutely be willing to do the same to hide worse behavior.

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    [–] 210 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Microsoft gives the Wine team infectious mononucleosis. Got it.

    But seriously, Microsoft is nobody's friend and shouldn't be trusted.

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  • [–] 74 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    In an organization as large as MS there have to be a few good guys. Just don't let the corporate leadership hear about it.

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  • [–] 47 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I know a lot of folk that work at MS or have worked there, they are all very good people. They are highly motivated professionals that are top in their field. MS is a rich company and they recruit the best they can. However those are not the people making any kind of decisions. And it's a cut throat company, if the budget gets cut, you are out on your ass. At least in most of the world, where strong employee protection isn't a thing.

    Don't get me wrong, MS has a lot of bad apples just like any other company. Useless managers who say dumb shit and take praise for other peoples work. A leadership that doesn't care about anything except their bonuses and the bottom line. But at least as far as the engineers go, there's plenty of really good folk.

    People also seem to forget how huge MS actually is. And a lot of the time the different branches within the company are as far away from each other as can be. Even within the same branch one can only talk to so many people.

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    [–] 202 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    I am no Microsoft fanboy, but I get the impression people are a bit overly skeptical here.

    I think this is fairly obvious. They have no further use for it, they can either let it rot or they can do the tiniest bit of effort and get some positive PR. It might also just be as simple as an initiative from some employees.

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    [–] 154 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    TIL that Mono is a Microsoft project. I always thought it was an open source reverse engineered .NET

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  • [–] 94 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    I can't help but think that Microsoft has decided to proceed in some way that will break compatibility, so they're done with Mono now.

    I know it's skeptical, but I just have no faith in that company to act in good faith with anything.

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  • [–] 27 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    As much as it is beloved, I don't think windows sees Linux / wine as any kind of substantial threat.

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  • [–] 19 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I think they do in the enterprise hosting / software dev world, which is the reason for so much effort being poured into WSL, but for standard client applications or the “average user” switching to Linux I agree

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  • [–] 15 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

    Yeah, they want to be able to get people totally off Linux as a root OS.

    By creating WSL, they now can say, "Oh, you like to develop for/on Linux? Well good news, Windows has Linux built in! Just come on over to Windows and you can use WSL and Linux on Azure for all your Linux needs!

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    [–] 72 points 2 years ago

    Microsoft is cancer but then so much of tech is going that way. We shouldn't lose sight of small victories, this is a good result. The EU is enforcing more openness and transparency in the sector. These are the type of changes we need.

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  • [–] 67 points 2 years ago (20 children)

    What's the twist? There must be some reason.

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  • [–] 122 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

    I guess it's simply the framing: It was a not very actively maintained open source project. So they've decided to turn it over to a new maintainer. Calling that 'donation' is a bit pushing it

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  • [–] 45 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Most of the time a company does something like this they would just let it die. It’s good that Microsoft have at least made the effort to hand it over to a team who’s willing to keep it going.

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  • [–] 45 points 2 years ago (7 children)

    What’s the twist? There must be some reason.

    .NET runs natively on Linux since quite some time. Honestly, I don't get what Mono is even good for these days. Maybe reverse engineering old .NET versions.

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    [–] 55 points 2 years ago (14 children)

    Jeezus. Microsoft can't do anything without people talking crap about them 😂

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  • [–] 34 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    No corpos does something for the good of the people. It just so happen that this particular thing does.

    Behind every move, there is a price tag attached to it.

    By doing that, Microsoft is trying to get good PR.

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    [–] 42 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Microsoft has had dotnet-core for awhile. If you are running production dotnet loads (eg a C# app), you’ve probably been using those Linux containers for awhile. This doesn’t surprise me; they usually aren’t interested in maintaining an open version of software they have more restrictive licenses for. Enterprises will continue to use dotnet-core and Microsoft will probably do something to shoot mono in the foot in a few years.

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    [–] 37 points 2 years ago

    Read the headline and thought "there's a catch..."

    Finally got around to reading the post and Microsoft is very politely saying "we've completed stealing their shit now. Don't know why anyone would want it, use ours now. You can have it though."

    Thanks I guess? I'm glad it's out of their hands now and with an open source group that cares and can make a difference.

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  • [–] 32 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Now give us DirectX on Linux

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  • [–] 16 points 2 years ago

    That's a good.way to burden a competitor with a huge project.

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