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[–] 302 points 2 years ago (3 children)

“It’s horrible for everybody. Yeah, I lost my son, it’s harder on our family, but I don’t want the rest of her life ruined too. It isn’t going to make me feel any better,” he said.

As hard as it is to say something like that... we need more people like this.

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  • [–] 114 points 2 years ago (11 children)

    It's a nice sentiment, but..

    This was premeditated. She needs to be held accountable and have consequences for what she willfully and knowingly did.

    She literally killed people. I'm not sure this can be a case of "forgive and let her off lightly."

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  • [–] 52 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (10 children)

    I don’t think he's saying she shouldn't be accountable and face consequences. He's said he didn't want her to spend life in jail. That's going to be pretty radical for a lot of folks.

    Some people are going to think that life in prison or the death penalty should be the minimum consequence. Others are going to think that even a monster like this can repent, change and (unlike her victims) be allowed to live free eventually.

    Edit. Yikes. Important typo. “Don’t”

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  • [–] 69 points 2 years ago (7 children)

    I witnessed this in a case. Young driver wasn't paying attention and crossed the line, struck head on and killed an elderly woman on her way to chemotherapy, no joke.

    On the recommendation and impassioned pleas of the victim's family, the defendant plead a manslaughter charge down to a $75 fine for failure to maintain lane or some such infraction. I don't remember all the facts but was struck by the forward thinking and empathy. The young driver was truly remorseful, part of the pleas were that he had suffered enough, that the memory of what he had done was punishment enough.

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  • [–] 32 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Definitely not the same situation at all. This wasn't some distracted driver, she had literally threatened to do exactly this before.

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    [–] 151 points 2 years ago (11 children)

    I can't believe I'm being held responsible for my actions!!

    If this were a case of a young driver who was driving irresponsibly fast and lost control of the car, killing their friends, that would be one thing. This is a 17 year old who repeatedly threatened her boyfriend with killing him while driving in the weeks before the accident, who made no attempt to avoid/stop ramming at full speed into a large building.

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    [–] 125 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    During the investigation, she asked if they could just suspend her license for 10 years

    “I just killed two people with a car, so I think being forced to use Uber for a decade is an appropriate sentence.”

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  • [–] 146 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    It's a shame she's not a male athlete with a promising swimming career. Might have gotten off with having to take a remedial driving course and paid a small fine.

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  • [–] 129 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

    Oh! You’re talking about the sexual predator/rapist Brock Turner, who now goes by the name Allen Turner.

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  • [–] 73 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    You do mean Brock Allen Turner who was indicted five charges: two for rape, two for felony sexual assault, and one for attempted rape? This all happened on January 18, 2015.

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  • [–] 27 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    That'd be the same convicted rapist Brock Allen Turner that was last seen near Dayton OH, right?

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  • [–] 27 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (9 children)

    Honestly, if she hadn’t threaded to kill her boyfriend with her car before this happened, then I think suspending her license for a decade or two or may be life would be the right solution. Prison shouldn’t be a punishment, but a way to keep everyone else safe from dangerous people. If she won’t drive, then she isn’t a danger. But it sounds like she’s dangerous no matter what.

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    [–] 108 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Just remember Ethan Couch in 2013 diagnosed with Afluenza, A condition where someone is too rich to understand the consequences of their actions.

    He was 16. He and a bunch of friends went to Walmart. They stole beer and drove drunk. He killed 4 people on the side of the road. A passenger in his car suffered brain damage and was paralyzed.

    This kid was sentenced with a 10 year parole. He violated that parole by going to a party to drink. He and his mom fled to Mexico to avoid punishment. He was captured and then given a 720 day sentence in prison.

    He murdered 4 people and paralyzed one of his friends. He got parole. Violated parole. Fled the country. And then was given 2 years in prison.

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    [–] 64 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    The Ohio teenager dubbed "hell on wheels" — who was convicted of intentionally crashing her car at 100 mph into a building, killing her boyfriend and his friend — was sentenced to two concurrent 15 years to life sentences Monday.

    Judge Russo shared blistering remarks and condemned Shirilla's actions saying: “She had a mission, and she executed it with precision. The mission was death.”

    Judge Russo said in handing down her verdict remarks that Shirilla was “literal hell on wheels,” saying she intentionally drove at an hour when not many witnesses would be around, on a path she didn't routinely use but had visited days before.

    Prosecutors argued in the trial that Shirilla had become turbulent and threatening towards her boyfriend and crashed to end their relationship.

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  • [–] 50 points 2 years ago (13 children)

    A haiku about this comment section:

    Healthy mind? Minor? We don't rehabilitate In the USA

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  • [–] 44 points 2 years ago (11 children)

    Look I'm all for rehabilitation, but she's 19 currently, which places her at 16-17 for the murder, without doing more research. By all means, she should receive psychiatric care and rehabilitation should be attempted, but we shouldn't have our hopes up. And while that's going on, she must be kept imprisoned -- mercy should not come at the expense of the innocence. Someone who makes a threat and then consciously speeds up to kill someone with a car is dangerous to society.

    Something else I've come to learn is that unfortunately, punishment is necessary. Someone who's prone to angry outbursts of racism and hate needs to understand that it's absolutely unacceptable and they need to change. If you keep giving them a slap on the wrist each time, they won't take it seriously, as compassionate as you are and as much as you try to convince them to change their ways.

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    [–] 41 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I am absolutely floored that she survived too. Was she the only one wearing a seatbelt?

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  • [–] 25 points 2 years ago* (3 children)

    It took police 45 minutes to get to the scene of the crash... fucking what?

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    [–] 22 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Hey so kind of off topic, but did anyone else read this and think this might be a problem? - "Police arrived to the scene around 45 minutes later."

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    [–] 19 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Was she trying to kill herself too or what? How did she survive when they both died at the scene?

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  • [–] 18 points 2 years ago

    Luck, car engineering, and medical science. She was seriously injured. Was she trying to kill herself, I have no idea. Clearly needs mental health treatment which she's not likely to get in prison. Not that I think she should be free either.

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    [–] 16 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    How is she eligible for release if she’s found guilty of two murders? Or 15 years rather than something like 40? Murder is one of the few things I think should carry a punitive sentence rather than rehab.

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  • [–] 19 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    I imagine it's her age. She wasn't even legally an adult, not that that excuses it. Losing all her 20s and most of her 30s basically means if she does get out at exactly 15 years she's probably much screwed her whole life even setting aside the felony on her record. Her life will look nothing like she imagined.

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  • [–] 17 points 2 years ago

    That's even ignoring what being in prison for that long will do to you mentally. From what I've heard, it's almost a whole other world in there.

    I can't imagine getting out after spending 15 years of my life in prison, and being able to keep the same quirks and mannerisms. Everything is just different. It's tough for fully grown adults to transition through, let alone someone who spent the last half of their teens.

    That being said, neither of those two dead people will ever get to see a sunrise again. They'll never get to feel the wind on their face, or tell their parents that they love them. For what?

    Intentionally murdering innocent people is despicable and soulless. I hope that they give her a lot of therapy and mental help in there. What a tragic end for such young lives.

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