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[–] 116 points 2 years ago* (9 children)

For reference for those using freedom units that's roughly 60 mph in a 20 mph zone

Bonus. In eagle burger land that will either land you:

  • $200 fine and 2 points on your license (varies on state)

  • shot in the face (dwb and reaching for a gun wallet)

  • nothing (hello fellow patrolman, have a great day killing pet dogs)

Source: I'm a red-blooded freedom loving eagle burger citizen

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  • [–] 18 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    While true, it’s always the insurance and fees that get you. This is why I don’t understand states that post their speeding fines: they’re low enough to not stop anyone, but also don’t give the true cost

    Here in Massachusetts

    Your first speeding ticket … lose your Excellent Driver Plus Discount and see your premiums rise and stay higher for six years!

    Plus that kind of excessive speed will almost certainly also get you reckless driving

    For surcharge purposes, reckless driving is treated the same as DUI [or a major at-fault accident]. This could result in a huge insurance premium increase.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Okay so i know you're replying to the first point, and everything you've said is valid.

    However, I mentioned the inherent racism and corruption that exists in US law enforcement in a very tongue-in-cheek way, and your reply of "while true" was just… oh man, yeah, chef's kiss

    But yes, it's the collateral affects that really get you. Plus doing 60 in a school zone can absolutely get your ass handed to you in a very real and legally binding way lol

    (For those in countries with functioning governments, in the US 30kph is usually reserved for school zones during restricted hours)

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  • [–] 9 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    People regularly do that speed in my neighborhood that has a 25mph limit. The only time I see cops around is when they're looking for the tweaker down the street so they can arrest him for whatever shit he stole this week, have him rat out other tweakers, and immediately release him to do the same thing again later.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago

    Catch and release is vital for a healthy ecosystem. It allows for sport catching without impacting breeding programs. Done correctly, a sportsman can take progressive trophy photos throughout the quarry's life

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago

    I was in traffic court in the 1990s and saw a guy get sent to jail for driving 75 miles per hour on a 25 miles per hour road.

    This was in Virginia. The person refused a lawyer. He looked like he was maybe 22. The look of surprise on his face when he was led off to jail was priceless.

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    [+] 91 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child)
  • [–] 53 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Noted: if you want to murder someone, use a car.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    So I can steal a car from someone I don't like, speed in front of a camera, and their car will be destroyed?

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    [+] 36 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)
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    [–] 32 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    And not even enough. As a society we're condoning too much when it's about cars.

    Going 100 in a 30 should be charged as "attempted massacre" if stopped. Because it's not an "accident" anymore when you go that fast.

    And driving that fast in a residential area without being under the influence of drugs or alcohol, should be an aggravating circumstance and not the opposite.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    I wonder what the finnish Mayday psychosis guy got for driving and crashing his Mercedes at like 180 km/h through a narrow and extremely busy street (30 or 40 km/h zone) got. He didn't hurt anyone IIRC but he also could have killed like 20 people. I'll edit this comment when find the video and the verdict.

    edit1: the video: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qgpNI2BQYrE&pp=ygUSdmFwcHUgbWVyc3Uga29sYXJp

    edit2: ok he "only" drove at 100km/h and injured 2 people. He was accused of 11 cases of attempted manslaughter among other things. All charges dropped.

    Apparently he had just proposed to his bride, she said yes, it was the happiest day of his life and he completely snapped. No drugs or alcohol involved.

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    [–] 29 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (10 children)

    Where I live (Australia) it's $962 (€586) and a 12 month licence suspension. $2,212 if you do it in a truck.

    What's interesting is that if you turn your head to look at a phone in your passenger's hand while stationary at a red light, it's a $545 fine and 4 points off your 12-point licence.

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    [–] 25 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Only 2 years suspension is a slap on the wrist for what is essentially an attempt at stochastic murder. We need to stop treating driving licenses as a universal right and stop clearly unfit people from sitting behind the wheel.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 years ago*

    If we stop treating driving as functionally a right we have to stop treating owning a car as functionally mandatory to having a job and being able to feed and house yourself.

    What do you do in the US if you need a job but don’t have a license? You drive anyways and just deal with the risk. The problem is that people HAVE to drive so we can’t really in good faith take the ability to drive away from most people as most when pushed to their limit couldn’t stop driving if they wanted to.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago

    i'm of the opinion that we should have a 2 strike system, first strike means you have to re-do your license from the ground up including any costs and undergo psychological evaluation to see if it's safe to give you a second chance, and second strike means you simply do not get to drive again, tough shit.

    A suspended license should however come with a free public transport ticket such that you can get around reasonably, add the cost needed to finance that to the price of getting a license in the first place if that's what it takes.

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    [–] 24 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Going 100 in a 30 zone means you don't care about killing a child if one happens to step out on the street.
    Boggles my mind how you're able to ever legally drive again after that.

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  • [–] 21 points 2 years ago

    Even as a car owner, I have no problems accepting Swiss-level regulations for this kind of criminal behavior.

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  • [–] 20 points 2 years ago

    Switzerland is based af

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  • [–] 20 points 2 years ago (2 children)
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    [–] 19 points 2 years ago (10 children)

    Germany sometimes seems like the America of Europe.

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    [–] 19 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Meanwhile, in the US, going 74 mph in a 25 and killing someone? No consequences as long as you're a cop.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Jaahnavi_Kandula

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    [–] 11 points 2 years ago

    All fines should be income dependent. Especially for all flavours of corporation, in which case there should be no upper limit. If the corp goes bankrupt because they broke the law hard enough it should either go out of business or become a public entity if it's vital.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago

    Weil Autoland Deutschland, darum.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago (1 child)
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    [–] 6 points 2 years ago

    Germany knows whats up.

    Don't like the loud kid next door? Run it over with your car. Your wife left you? Kill a bunch of pedestrians to blow off steam. You are below 18 years old and don't have a car? Fuck off, your age is a YOU-problem.

    After we build that one more lane we will be even greater than the USA.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago

    The first kid is free.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago

    in my country they just give you a fine

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