I am looking for a name for an idea that I have for a website. It is a niche hobby, but there is a greek word for it that most people don't know. Lets say its a book club and the word was Bibliophile or a music club called Melophile.

Would you, if you did not know the meaning, think of it as something sexual, or maybe even something bad? I am nervous that users might relate it to pedophile even though that is just one of, (but maybe best known) philias there are

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[–] 62 points 2 years ago (3 children)

When I hear "audiophile", I truly never think about licking the banana-plugs, so nope.

There are also some popular YT channels like Computerphile and Numberphile

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  • [–] [S] 6 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Yeah another user mentioned those two too. The interesting part is that they have used a mixture of english and greek. For example Numberphile uses the enlish word "number" instead of the proper Arithmophile. I wonder if this is to make it easier to understand

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  • [–] 42 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    No, because I know what the suffix means.

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  • [–] [S] 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    But this is my question. The suffix means "to like" but this can be a good and a bad thing, depending on what the prefix is, like mentioned in the description. If you did not recognize the prefix would the average user assume the suffix to be sexual or negatively charged?

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  • [–] 31 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Just remember that the average Lemmy user is a bit more literate than the average kneejerk reaction idiot. Id say theres nothing wrong with it but you can probably come up with something a little more catchy and clever if you put your mind to it.

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  • [–] [S] 8 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I think you are right. I might go with a mixture of English and Greek like an other user mentioned (computerphile, numberphile, bookphile) even though they are not proper.

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  • [–] 24 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Phile is pretty much the best known greek suffix out there. It gets tagged onto most hobbies, so you don't have to worry about it being defaulted to sexual matters. Tbh, most of the paraphilias are so obscure that nobody without an interest in the field is going to know them the way -phobias are. I mean, can you name the other chronophilias besides pedophilia? Did you even know that there were others? Most people really only know one or two sexual-philias at most, where they'll have heard of a dozen or so non sexual ones.

    But, just tacking phile or philia onto a word can be clunky, so you might end up with it not working well anyway.

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  • [–] 21 points 2 years ago

    “Audiophile” has never before brought to mind the concept of “pedophile”.

    In fact, note the way we shorten the word: “pedo”.

    I wouldn't worry about it. But I’m autistic, so the way my brain processes these words might be different than an NT’s brain.

    Mostly I think it’s only going to be a problem for people who are looking for trouble, and you can’t really avoid problems with those people.

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  • [–] 17 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    There is audiophile. It refers to someone who is obsessed about audio quality.

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    It really depends. I think -phile tends to make me think non-sexual, and -philia makes me think sexual. Probably just because of how the words are used.

    People tend to be willing to describe themselves as an x-phile, but psychological or legal literature are more likely to say something like "a person with x-philia" or "displaying traits of x-philia".

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  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I assume the people who automatically think of something negative or sexual when hearing the word „phile“ are the same people you don’t want to associate with in the first place. Their opinion is worthless and can be ignored. Don’t waste your time with other people’s ignorance.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    I have some interest in chemistry and after a while when I hear "phile" my first thought is "they are attracted to water".

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    [–] 7 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I don't know if this is international but it's a common joke in British media to use this as a bit of a joke, for example a geeky character might say that they're a bibliophile, and the dumb character will make it sexual.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago

    Not necessarily, it depends on whether I recognize the first part of the word. For example, I dont immediately think "audiophile," is negative or sexual in nature.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I might quirk an eyebrow at someone trying to force in Greek root words. Depending on how smoothly the word can be read or spoken, it might give off "I'm so smart" vibes or obfuscate the intent of the website. Are there words from English or whatever language you're going to post this in that would better describe the intent?

    No hangup on -phile specifically, would have to see the word coming before it.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago

    Definitely the vibe I got from this guy using the term heliophile and then after he asked if I knew what it was…. Explained it anyway, and how people always recoil at the use of the word.

    I was just thinking, maybe they’re recoiling from your personality bro.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    There's only two words with the 'phile' ending that is sexual that I can think of. But audiophile, videophile, and a host of others use that ending in the context of a preference or attraction: nemophile has nothing to do with animated fish, for instance. Hemophilia is another example of a commonplace word that is definitely not sexual.

    I want to think the average person knows there's no sex in halophilia, but we could be overestimating.

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    [–] 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    Nah, I just assume it's someone that really likes something. Kind of like saying food-porn but even less sexual. Like Audiophile is common parlance that evokes no sexual meaning.

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    Nah it's okay. Anglophile doesn't mean you want to bang me.

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    [–] 3 points 2 years ago

    Is it “furryphile”? Then yeah, they’ll think it’s sexual.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    No. There's plenty of common examples of that suffix being used in a non-sexual non-negative context. For example: someone who enjoys reading books is called a bibliophile, there's also the youtube channels Computerphile and Numberphile.

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    [–] 3 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    I would understand that it just means a connoisseur of something, but you could always change the spelling to "file" to make it more digital-y and even less associated with problematic obsessions.

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